[Marxism] The people's climate march in Canberra

John Passant en.passant at bigpond.com
Sun Nov 29 03:53:46 MST 2015

Maybe Gary. I think however the long years of social movement and union 
inactivity make it difficult to mobilise people to and then beyond 
marches. With the Greens having only an electoral perspective, the great 
discontentment has little chance of finding an outlet, let alone forcing 
successful action on capital and its governments.



On 29/11/2015 8:51 PM, Gary MacLennan wrote:
> These marches were of the same size as the huge rallies before the 2nd 
> Gulf War.  Those marches were ignored and no peace movement rose 
> subsequently.
> Will the same fate befall the climate change movement? Impossible to 
> tell, really.  But at a guess I think not. Principally, because we are 
> further down the road towards a severe crisis of legitimacy.
> Our leaders appear more and more detached from the lived experience  
> of the vast majority. In the mean time the Number One Hegemon, the 
> USA, seems crazier and crazier.  Trump, Carson & co seem barking mad, 
> not to put too fine a point on it.
> My feeling is that the next economic crisis will be a down turn too 
> far. That will create two, three many Syrizas and then it will be a 
> case of no more water, the fire next time.
> comradely
> Gary
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 7:35 PM, John Passant via Marxism 
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>     The people's climate march in Canberra
>     Given the vested interests involved, and the short termism that
>     engulfs both business and governments, coupled with each country
>     battling for a competitive advantage over the others, I do not
>     think capitalism can solve the crisis of climate change. Our
>     marches show we can raise our voice for action. However to win our
>     demands for real results ('Turn bull into action' was one clever
>     sign at the Melbourne Rally) we need to have a say in the
>     outcomes. That means in my opinion not making polite
>     representations to the representatives of a system addicted to and
>     dependent on fossil fuels but fighting for greater democracy to
>     win real action on climate change.
>     http://enpassant.com.au/2015/11/29/the-peoples-climate-march-in-canberra/
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