[Marxism] regarding Russian air strikes

Ron Jacobs ronj1955 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 1 09:44:53 MDT 2015

There is no revolution in Syria--that's all, not in Assad's forces or in
the "rebel" forces.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com> wrote:

> On 10/1/15 10:54 AM, Ron Jacobs via Marxism wrote:
>> Why are we supposed to be bothered that CIA-trained mercenary "rebels"
>> were
>> attacked?  How are these CIA-trained mercenaries that much different from
>> the contras or the so-called mujaheddin?
> Ron speaks about the FSA as if it were "contras" when in fact the real
> counter-revolution is based in Damascus and is propped up by Iran,
> Hezbollah and the Kremlin. This is hard for "anti-imperialists" to since
> any armed forces that are on the white side  of the chessboard like the
> Russian military represent peace, national sovereignty, Enlightenment
> values, and tolerance even if Pussy Riot had to be put in jail to sustain
> those values.
> Last night I was at a dinner to kick off the 2016 Socially Relevant Film
> Festival and found myself sitting next to a filmmaker who had obviously
> been reading Mike Whitney et al. When she told me that Israel was backing
> al-Qaeda in Syria, I asked her to substantiate that. She could not.
> What is going on here? Brainwashing? No, I think it is something far more
> interesting. When people like her and Ron Jacobs were young, they became
> profoundly alienated from the USA because of the Vietnam War. This led
> inexorably toward an identification with any government or movement that
> was seen as the enemy of the USA, so much so that the same kind of "my
> country, right or wrong" mentality that typified the yahoos who wore
> American flag pins on their lapels became adopted by young radicals. Except
> that the country became Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, or Russia. Half right, I
> guess, but a miss is as good as a mile. Trying to persuade her or Ron
> Jacobs that Assad and Putin were no different than Pinochet or Suharto is
> virtually impossible because they have settled into a comfort zone that
> makes critical thinking impossible.
> I suppose that I was fortunate enough (despite all the shitty baggage that
> went along with it) to have been educated in the Trotskyist movement. Joe
> Hansen published the Soviet dissidents in the 1960s and 70s no matter that
> the NY Times took up their cause. If you want to play chess, play chess.
> But if you lack a class analysis, stick to checkers or maybe even marbles.

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