[Marxism] Fwd: [Viet Nam | Full Disclosure] Life as it was under Gaddafi's democracy in Libya

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From: Clay Claiborne <clayclai at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Viet Nam | Full Disclosure] Life as it was under Gaddafi's
democracy in Libya
To: Bruce Beyer <beyers.4peace at gmail.com>
Cc: Becky Luening <becky.pdx at gmail.com>, Frank Scott <fpscott at gmail.com>, "
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On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Bruce Beyer <beyers.4peace at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Becky,
>
> Thank you! I agree that VFD should be title limited. Obviously, so much of
> new millennial politics is related to Vietnam that it is difficult to
> separate issues.
>
> What I do know is that when someone attacks a person the caliber of  Ray
> McGovern, I'm out. What's next? Are Daniel Elsberg and Anthony Russo going
> to be denounced. Will Seymour Hersh be pilloried as journalist? Good grief.
>
> Bruce
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Becky Luening <becky.pdx at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> I am list moderator, but I have an admittedly light touch, AND I also
>> assumed that people interacting on this list would be more mature.
>>
>> Seems to me that being a "Viet Nam Full Disclosure" list, posts should be
>> limited to that topic.
>>
>> Please know that I have already removed one person off this list for his
>> violent, i.e. attacking language.
>>
>> Becky
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Bruce Beyer wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Frank,
>> >
>> > I don't know if there is a list monitor? I believe it was assumed that
>> people communicating through VFD would act and behave like adults.
>> Unfortunately, we seem to have been assaulted by a dolt!
>> >
>> > I'm with you, I delete. Thanks for speaking up!
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Frank Scott <fpscott at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > note to list monitor:
>> >
>> > am dumping these ego trips as soon as the egoist name appears as sender.
>> >
>> > please let me know if by some mistake there is a newsworthy or
>> informationally valued comment included among the first person singulars
>> and state dept bulletins.
>> >
>> > thanks
>> >
>> > fs
>> >
>> > fs
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Clay Claiborne <clayclai at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > New from Linux Beach:
>> > Life as it was under Gaddafi's democracy in Libya
>> >
>> >> Mummar Gaddafi use to have rallies in Green Square with well over a
>> million supporters until I made him stop.
>> >>
>> >> That may be a bit of hyperbole. These are the facts: Qaddafi claimed 3
>> rallies in Green Sq. on June 17th, July 1st & 8th 2011 at which he claimed
>> he had 1.7 million supporters. After I published Tripoli Green Square
>> Reality Check on July 19th showing there was no way Green Square could hold
>> that many people, and it was widely circulated by the Libyan Youth Movement
>> among others, Gaddafi never made that claim again. I consider it one of my
>> most significant contributions to their revolution.
>> >>
>> >> Naturally, all the "anti-imperialists" were promoting these rallies as
>> proof of Gaddafi's popular  support. Worker's World Party made that claim,
>> so did the Party for Socialism and Liberation. I wrote       in that:
>> >> Now others reporting on these pro-Qaddafi protests have estimated much
>> lower numbers for these crowds, in the range of 10,000 to 30,000. It has
>> also been said that the majority of those in attendance had some relation
>> to Qaddafi security forces, approximately 10% of the Libya population has
>> such an association. It threatened them if they failed to show up.
>> > More...
>> >
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>> > Frank Scott writes  political commentary and satire which appears  on
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>> >
>> >
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