[Marxism] Trump, Assad and the US Left

John Reimann 1999wildcat at gmail.com
Mon Dec 19 14:30:07 MST 2016


Well and good. But how about Russian troops (and airplanes)? Let's not
forget that now Trump is moving into close alliance with Putin as far as
Syria is concerned.

John

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
wrote:

> The demand should be the removal of all US troops (and bases, weapons,
> financial support) from MENA.
>
> Given the extent of US responsibility for the general situation, we should
> pay for steps taken by the UNSC to pacify the region.
>
> —CGE
>
> > On Dec 19, 2016, at 1:29 PM, John Reimann via Marxism <
> marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:
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> > Trump, Assad and the US Left
> > <https://oaklandsocialist.com/2016/12/19/trump-assad-and-the-us-left/>
> > Posted on December 19, 2016
> > <https://oaklandsocialist.com/2016/12/19/trump-assad-and-the-us-left/>
> by
> > oaklandsocialist <https://oaklandsocialist.com/author/oaklandsocialist/>
> >
> > Much of the left in the US is basically taking the same position that
> > Donald Trump is taking regarding Syria. As the New York Times reports
> > <http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/world/middleeast/donald-
> trump-syria.html?_r=0>:
> > Trump’s position is “that the United States should focus on defeating the
> > Islamic State, and find common ground with the Syrians and their Russian
> > backers.” “My attitude was you’re fighting Syria, Syria is fighting ISIS,
> > and you have to get rid of ISIS,” Trump has said
> > <http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/17/world/middleeast/assad-
> donald-trump-syria-natural-ally.html>
> > .
> >
> > Is this so very different from those on the left who see the Islamic
> State
> > and al Qaeda (in the form of Nusra) as the only opponents of Assad? Is it
> > so different from those who justify any crime against humanity in the
> name
> > of combating the Islamic State fascists? What will they say if a Trump
> > presidency actually does join forces with Putin & Co. in Syria? Will they
> > support that?
> >
> > Basically, these lefts have abandoned any class position. They see one,
> and
> > only one enemy: US imperialism. The Russian capitalist state cannot be
> > imperialist, according to them. That includes when it imposes itself on
> the
> > people of Chechnya, using the same military tactics that the racist State
> > of Israel used against the people of Gaza.
> >
> >
> > *Same as the Stalinists of Old*These lefts are taking a position similar
> to
> > that taken by the Stalinists and their liberal supporters back in the
> 1930s
> > and ’40s. In the first place, any reports of the crimes of Stalin & Co.
> are
> > purely capitalist propaganda. Second, that those who traveled to the
> Soviet
> > Union as guests of the terrorist regime of Stalin and came back with
> > glowing reports were “independent” reporters – as if the people of the
> > Soviet Union then or Syria today would speak openly to these “reporters”
> > for their torturer! But, most important, back in the era of Stalin his
> > supporters argued, in effect, that the world working class must sacrifice
> > its interests for the interests of the “socialist homeland”, which in
> > reality meant the Stalinist bureaucracy.
> >
> >
> > *“US Imperialism the One and Only Enemy”*Today, the defenders of
> > Putin/Assad (and Rouhani and Hezbollah) make a similar argument: That the
> > one and only battle that matters today is that against US imperialism
> (and
> > its allies, including Israel). Therefore, anything is justified in
> opposing
> > US imperialism, which is the only imperialist force in the world. They
> > forget that every capitalist state is imperialist, or would be if it
> could.
> > What is the Guatemalan state when it casts covetous eyes on Belize, with
> > the desire to invade that country? What are both the Indian and Pakistani
> > states with regard to Kashmir? How about the Brazilian state when it sent
> > troops into Haiti to murder Haitian workers protesting in the streets?
> How
> > about the Chinese state, when it expands into Pakistan, Africa and South
> > America?
> >
> > https://oaklandsocialist.com/2016/12/19/trump-assad-and-the-us-left/
> >
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