[Marxism] Marxism Digest, Vol 158, Issue 31

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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. Re:  Trump, Assad and the US Left (MM)
>   2. Re:  Trump, Assad and the US Left (Carl G. Estabrook)
>   3.  Marxism for Christmas (Philip Ferguson)
>   4.  Reflections on Xmas (Philip Ferguson)
>   5. Re:  Reflections on Xmas (Louis Proyect)
>   6. Re:  [UCE] When Bill Clinton Put His Thumb on the Scale    for
>      Yeltsin (Karen Saunders)
>   7.  Fwd: ZCommunications ? Political Fire in the Refinery Town
>      (Louis Proyect)
>   8.  Fwd: Obama Allows Toothless UN Resolution Against Israeli
>      Settlements to Pass (Louis Proyect)
>   9. Re:  Reflections on Xmas (Mark Lause)
>  10.  Fwd: George Orwell was a reactionary snitch who made a
>      blacklist of leftists for the British government (Paul Flewers)
>  11.  Fwd: Syria: What will happen if the revolution is defeated |
>      Middle East Eye (Louis Proyect)
>  12.  Tossed aside in "the white gold rush" - Washington Post
>      (Dennis Brasky)
>  13. Re:  Fwd: George Orwell was a reactionary snitch who made a
>      blacklist of leftists for the British government (Andrew Pollack)
>  14.  Obama Allows Toothless UN Resolution (Ken Hiebert)
>  15. Re:  Obama Allows Toothless UN Resolution (Dennis Brasky)
>  16.  Fwd: To ?leftist? admirers of Assad?s Syria ? P U L S E
>      (Louis Proyect)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 15:21:23 -0500
> From: MM <marxmail00 at gmail.com>
> To: "Carl G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>,    Activists and
>    scholars in Marxist tradition <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Trump, Assad and the US Left
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>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Marxism <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> I?d rather have Trump talking to Putin than HRC provoking him.
> 
> 
> How about the worst of both worlds:
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/22/us/politics/trump-says-us-should-expand-its-nuclear-capability.html <http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/22/us/politics/trump-says-us-should-expand-its-nuclear-capability.html>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 15:35:49 -0600
> From: "Carl G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
> To: MM <marxmail00 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
>    <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Trump, Assad and the US Left
> Message-ID: <3AE6F6CD-72B6-4CD0-B842-0D75B559CCB1 at illinois.edu>
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> Members of the US political class (in Max Weber?s sense) who are horrified at Trump (largely because he isn?t PLU) and aghast at his comments "that the US should greatly expand its nuclear arsenal? seem not to have noticed that Obama announced a trillion [sic] dollar program for that last spring:
> 
> https://theintercept.com/2016/02/23/obamas-new-rationale-for-1-trillion-nuclear-program-augurs-a-new-arms-race-with-russia/
> 
> Nuclear weapons (?defense? spending) are a leading example of Obama?s ?fake-left-drive-right? politics. After stirring speeches about reducing the arms race with Russia, he expands it. Trump?s suggestion is far short of Obama?s in scope and specificity. And the practical effect of Obama?s policies is clear: in November 2012 he canceled a conference in Helsinki that had intended to establish ?nuclear-free zones? in the Middle East; of course he has rejected calls for Israel?s nuclear facilities to be placed under international inspection. 
> 
> American liberals who reject Brexit voters as racists, Trump voters as deplorables, and Le Pen voters as neo-Nazis will probably continue to be surprised at the political establishment's inability to make the croppies lie down. The plague of American interventionism - US presidents have killed more than 20 million people in 37 nations since WWII - is being rejected around the world. But the US remains during the Obama administration what M. L. King called it long ago: ?the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.? Under the direction of Obama's National Security Council, US ?special forces,? with 70,000 members, are active in more than 130 countries around the world: their activities include kidnapping ("rendition"), murder, and torture.  
> 
> If Trump brings ?moderation? to Obama?s appalling record - ignored by US media but not elsewhere - it will be a consummation devoutly to be wished.   
> 
> ?CGE
> 
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2016, at 2:21 PM, MM <marxmail00 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Marxism <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu <mailto:marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I?d rather have Trump talking to Putin than HRC provoking him.
>> 
>> 
>> How about the worst of both worlds:
>> 
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/22/us/politics/trump-says-us-should-expand-its-nuclear-capability.html <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nytimes.com_2016_12_22_us_politics_trump-2Dsays-2Dus-2Dshould-2Dexpand-2Dits-2Dnuclear-2Dcapability.html&d=DQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=zY78Vd4FMRVux_r3ltfH4gaKUsAP2QanagMZW2uQjVE&s=eNioLng7HSJbMjUb8iKYYpCxYW_PmANU44c9xA0E45c&e=>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 12:42:07 +1300
> From: Philip Ferguson <philipferguson8 at gmail.com>
> To: marxism at greenhouse.economics.utah.edu
> Subject: [Marxism] Marxism for Christmas
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> https://rdln.wordpress.com/2016/12/24/marxism-for-christmas/
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 13:45:40 +1300
> From: Philip Ferguson <philipferguson8 at gmail.com>
> To: marxism at greenhouse.economics.utah.edu
> Subject: [Marxism] Reflections on Xmas
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> Xmas.
> 
> Quite revolting really.
> 
> We really are well and truly sucked into a quite revolting and alienating
> dubious tradition.
> 
> What is draining is seeing a mall full of people desperately fulfilling the
> implicit expectations of an officially-dictated happy season when same
> system doesn?t give the steam off a turd about suffering for the rest of
> the year.
> 
> Our fake traditions are retail or war mongering or sycophantic celebrity
> worship.  This is all symptomatic of abdicating control elsewhere.
> 
> Our culture is sanitised of. . .
> 
> Full at: https://rdln.wordpress.com/2016/12/24/a-christmas-reflection/
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 21:15:53 -0500
> From: Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com>
> To: Philip Ferguson <philipferguson8 at gmail.com>,    Activists and
>    scholars in Marxist tradition <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Reflections on Xmas
> Message-ID: <4db96a57-bda4-b914-5e15-8b291d33f4e3 at panix.com>
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>> On 12/23/16 7:45 PM, Philip Ferguson via Marxism wrote:
>> 
>> Our fake traditions are retail or war mongering or sycophantic celebrity
>> worship.  This is all symptomatic of abdicating control elsewhere.
>> 
>> Our culture is sanitised of. . .
>> 
>> Full at: https://rdln.wordpress.com/2016/12/24/a-christmas-reflection/
> 
> 
> https://louisproyect.org/2014/12/21/hanukkah-bah-humbug/
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 07:07:16 -0500
> From: Karen Saunders <karenfransdottir at gmail.com>
> To: marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] [UCE] When Bill Clinton Put His Thumb on the
>    Scale    for Yeltsin
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> I found the beginning of the article here:
> http://qoshe.com/counterpunch/nick-alexandrov/when-bill-clinton-put-his-thumb-on-the-scale-for-y/845888
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 07:43:38 -0500
> From: Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com>
> To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
>    <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>
> Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: ZCommunications ? Political Fire in the
>    Refinery Town
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> https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/political-fire-in-the-refinery-town/
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 07:50:37 -0500
> From: Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com>
> To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
>    <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>
> Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: Obama Allows Toothless UN Resolution Against
>    Israeli Settlements to Pass
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> This was the only Security Council resolution calling on Israel to 
> respect international law that Obama ever refused to veto. Under George 
> W. Bush, six similar resolutions were allowed through. Under H.W. Bush, 
> nine resolutions critical of Israel were allowed through.
> 
> At the same time, Obama awarded Israel with its largest military aid 
> package ever ? signing a memorandum of understanding in September that 
> would give it $38 billion over 10 years.
> 
> The pressure to veto a toothless resolution shows how constricted U.S. 
> policy on Israel-Palestine has become in recent years, even though the 
> American public appears to favor tougher UN action on the issue. A 
> recent Brookings poll finds that nearly two-thirds of Americans favor UN 
> resolutions demanding a halt to settlements and that a majority of 
> self-identified Democrats support some form of sanctions towards Israel 
> to bring about peace.
> 
> full: 
> https://theintercept.com/2016/12/23/obama-allows-toothless-un-resolution-against-israeli-settlements-to-pass/
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 08:37:46 -0500
> From: Mark Lause <markalause at gmail.com>
> To: Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com>, Activists and scholars in Marxist
>    tradition    <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Reflections on Xmas
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> One of the most interesting features of Christmas in the U.S. has been the
> increasing militarization of its celebration since WWII.  Many of the most
> heard Christmas songs date from the war and its aftermath and local TV
> regularly fills its public service obligations by showcasing local people
> in uniform overseas.  All sorts of retailers promise special deals to
> veterans and active duty military, who also started getting special
> privileges from airlines and railroads around the holidays (and now
> always).  None of this has to do with any real appreciation of individual
> sacrifice intended to be of service to the community but places the
> discussion of that intention beyond discussion and examination.
> 
> But it seems to me that almost nobody over a certain age of awareness is
> entirely happy during the season, regardless.
> 
> ML
> 
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 15:00:02 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Paul Flewers <trusscott.foundation at blueyonder.co.uk>
> To: marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu,    marxism-request
>    <marxism-request at lists.csbs.utah.edu>
> Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: George Orwell was a reactionary snitch who
>    made a blacklist of leftists for the British government
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> Here's my take on the business (minus footnotes). The full article from which
> this is taken is at <
> https://www.academia.edu/10000457/_I_Know_How_But_I_Don_t_Know_Why_George_Orwell_s_Conception_of_Totalitarianism
>> .
> 
> Paul F
> 
> Appendix: Orwell and the Spooks
> 
> The right-wing press had a field day with the discovery in 1996 of
> correspondence in the Public Record Office between Orwell and Celia Kirwan, who
> was a friend of Orwell?s, the sister-in-law of Arthur Koestler, and an employee
> of the Foreign Office?s clandestine propaganda wing, the Information Research
> Department.  The correspondence revealed that Orwell was asked in 1949 by the
> Foreign Office if he would help in the writing of material which could be used
> in its war of words against the Soviet Union. Orwell, terminally ill, turned
> down the invitation, but did provide the IRD with the names of 35
> fellow-travellers, taken from a notebook containing 86 names. The papers
> repeated their celebrations two years later when the names in the notebook ? or
> most of them ? were finally revealed in one of the 20 volumes of the
> newly-released Orwell Collected Works.  Once again, the right wing could claim
> Orwell as one of their own.
> 
> Why was Orwell willing to collaborate with the murkier parts of the British
> state, the same sort of bodies which he had long denounced? Orwell was always a
> supporter of the lesser evil, and without ever renouncing his calls for the
> socialist transformation of Britain, he adopted a defencist stand during both
> the Second World War and the ensuing Cold War, as he saw parliamentary democracy
> as a lesser evil than either a Hitlerite or Stalinist dictatorship. By the late
> 1940s, with Stalinist rule extending across Eastern Europe, Orwell, by now a
> sick and pessimistic man, was willing to take whatever steps he felt were
> necessary to defend democratic rights in Britain. Furthermore, despite his
> suspicion of state institutions, he had no conception of the necessity for
> socialists to maintain their political independence from the state. This is why
> he was willing to make common cause with institutions that were bitter enemies
> of socialism, rather than propose a politically independent course.
> 
> In the covering letter to his list, Orwell stated that he wanted to help ensure
> that ?unreliable? people would not be ?worming their way into important
> propaganda jobs?.  Orwell admitted to Kirwan that her ?friends?, as he put it,
> probably knew all about those named by him, although he added that it was
> probably a good idea to have such ?unreliable? people listed. He gave the
> example of Peter Smollett, an important official at the wartime Ministry of
> Information, who could well have advised against the publication of Animal Farm,
> and has since been revealed as a Soviet agent.
> 
> The list itself is a strange collection. Some of the names are of well-known
> Americans ? Walter Duranty, Edgar Snow, Anna Strong, Paul Robeson, Upton
> Sinclair ? whose fame (or notoriety) did not require Orwell to point them out.
> Some British Stalinists ? DN Pritt, Lester Hutchinson, WP and Zelda Coates, JD
> Bernal, Hewlett Johnson ? were so well known that the very idea of their being
> used to write British official publications during the Cold War is laughable.
> Some were well-known sympathisers of Stalinism, such as Sean O?Casey and George
> Bernard Shaw; some, like Kingsley Martin, had been soft on Stalinism; and
> others, including Michael Redgrave and JB Priestley, were politically naive
> individuals. Whether they were Stalinists without a party card, or credulous
> believers in a happy land, far far away, the whole thing with most
> fellow-travellers was that they were publicly sympathetic to the Soviet Union.
> Secret Soviet sympathisers like Smollett are very few and far between in
> Orwell?s list.  Stephen Spender is strange inclusion, as he had long dropped out
> of the Communist Party, and was shortly to get star billing in that
> anti-communist credo The God that Failed. The listing of Orson Welles and
> Charlie Chaplin is even more baffling. To be honest, a glance through the
> contents pages of Labour Monthly and other Stalinist publications could well
> have provided a better list of fellow-travellers, and there can be no doubt that
> Kirwan?s ?friends? regularly scanned them.
> 
> The rise of Stalinism posed a real problem for the left. Here was a state and a
> world-wide movement, emerging from a workers? revolution and using the
> liberatory language of Marxism, which was extremely repressive, particularly
> towards its left-wing opponents and the working class. How could the
> non-Stalinist left respond to it? When an article by Trotsky on the Moscow
> Trials appeared without his approval in the right-wing US press, he responded
> that he and his colleagues wanted to expose the lies of Stalin to the widest
> possible audience. Moreover, he stated: ?If I should have to post placards,
> warning the people of a cholera epidemic, I should equally utilise the walls of
> schools, churches, saloons, gambling houses and even worse establishments.?  One
> of Trotsky?s last articles looked at the financial and secret police links
> between the Soviet Union and communist parties in Europe and America, and could
> quite easily have been used by the right wing against the official communist
> movement.  Other left-wingers, including Hugo Dewar and Walter Kendall, had
> anti-Stalinist articles published in right-wing journals such as Survey. Victor
> Serge?s Destiny of a Revolution was promoted in Britain by the National Book
> Association, a right-wing rival to the Left Book Club. None of this compromised
> the authors? principles, as they retained their political independence, and the
> material published benefited the left more than the right.
> 
> Similarly, if left-wing anti-Stalinist material was used by the IRD or other
> Western governmental bodies for their own ends, then that did not necessarily
> reflect badly upon the authors.  There is, however, a difference between this
> and working with institutions which have always been hostile to the aims of the
> left, and with whom cooperation can only work against the interests of the left.
> Although Orwell had little to offer the IRD, the fact that he was willing to
> collaborate with it shows that he had strayed into unacceptable behaviour for
> anyone on the left. 
> 
> Stalinism had to be fought within the labour movement, and the fellow-travellers
> had to be exposed as venal or gullible apologists for Stalin?s regime.
> Nonetheless, this could only be done by a principled campaign that clearly
> differentiated itself from the right?s anti-communism. Those who wished both to
> combat Stalinism and maintain their socialist principles could not do so unless
> they maintained their political independence from the British state and its
> agents on the right wing of the labour movement. And just as Orwell?s
> theoretical limitations enabled his Animal Farm and Nineteen Eighty-Four to be
> used by anti-communists around the world, they led him to collaborate with
> anti-socialist forces in Britain. He did not understand that the cause of
> socialism cannot be aided by collaborating with those who are its bitter
> enemies.
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 10:00:41 -0500
> From: Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com>
> To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
>    <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>
> Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: Syria: What will happen if the revolution is
>    defeated | Middle East Eye
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> http://www.middleeasteye.net/fr/node/59819
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 12:01:01 -0500
> From: Dennis Brasky <dmozart1756 at gmail.com>
> To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
>    <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>
> Subject: [Marxism] Tossed aside in "the white gold rush" - Washington
>    Post
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> Indigenous people are left poor as tech world takes lithium from under
> their feet
> 
> excerpt -
> 
> In visits to all six of the indigenous communities, which lie on a
> mountain-ringed desert about 25 miles from Argentina?s northwest border
> with Chile, The Post found a striking contrast ? faraway companies
> profiting from mineral riches while the communities that own the land
> struggle to pay for sewage systems, drinking water and heat for schools.
> 
> ?We know the lithium companies are taking millions of dollars from our
> lands,? said Luisa Jorge, a leader in Susques, one of the six communities
> around the salt flats. ?The companies are conscious of this. And we know
> they ought to give something back. But they?re not.?
> 
> ?They are taking everything away from us,? said Carlos Guzman, 44, an
> indigenous resident who leads a group worried about contamination and water
> use by the lithium mines. ?These lands are ancestral. We live by this. By
> the fields. By our cattle. This way of life is in danger.?
> 
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/batteries/tossed-aside-in-the-lithium-rush/?wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-economy%252Bnation
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 12:04:25 -0500
> From: Andrew Pollack <acpollack2 at gmail.com>
> To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
>    <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Fwd: George Orwell was a reactionary snitch who
>    made a blacklist of leftists for the British government
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> Great stuff, Paul! Provides essential context and a principled approach.
> See also Cannon's essay which starts from the same perspective, i.e. that
> anti-Stalinism is insufficient on its own, that we are anti-Stalinist
> because we are anti-capitalist.
> https://www.marxists.org/archive/cannon/works/1947/amstalandantistal.htm
> re: your point about the unintended positive impact of right-wingers
> mistaking Orwell for one of their own: I remember the first time I  read
> "1984" and saw the inside bio of him, which said he was a socialist. I said
> to myself  "huh?" and it set me off on a search for more...
> p.s. A couple comrades and I were discussing Norton's filth while at an
> Aleppo demo, and I recommended to them - and to all here - Paul's book on
> fellow-travelers, "The New Civilization?"
> 
> 
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 09:35:52 -0800
> From: Ken Hiebert <knhiebert at shaw.ca>
> To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
>    <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>
> Subject: [Marxism] Obama Allows Toothless UN Resolution
> Message-ID: <6015F8CB-F11F-45DD-B889-6FE2BC2A98A2 at shaw.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> As weak as the resolution is, it is an eyeopener nevertheless.
> I am sure there are people who did not know there was a West Bank and that Israel is settling its own citizens there. 
> While on one US cable network I heard the West Bank referred to as a "disputed territory," on Canadian networks I heard it referred to as "occupied Palestinian territory."
> There are people who had not previously seen the conflict presented in this way.
> 
> While supporters of Israel are anxious to demonstrate that even the mildest criticism will lead to political banishment, that won't necessarily work.  While most of his allies are taking their distance from Obama, some Americans and other supporters will want to find out why he made this mild criticism.  And that is an opportunity for us.
> 
> There is a good reason why supporters of Israel were anxious to see this resolution vetoed.  Of course will it lead to very little action by the UN and member governments.  But as Alan Dershowitz said as he campaigned against it, it will put wind in the sails of the BDS movement.
> 
>            ken h
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> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 13:28:42 -0500
> From: Dennis Brasky <dmozart1756 at gmail.com>
> To: Ken Hiebert <knhiebert at shaw.ca>,    Activists and scholars in Marxist
>    tradition <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Obama Allows Toothless UN Resolution
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> Agreed!
> 
> On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Ken Hiebert via Marxism
>> 
>> 
>> As weak as the resolution is, it is an eyeopener nevertheless.
>> I am sure there are people who did not know there was a West Bank and that
>> Israel is settling its own citizens there.
>> While on one US cable network I heard the West Bank referred to as a
>> "disputed territory," on Canadian networks I heard it referred to as
>> "occupied Palestinian territory."
>> There are people who had not previously seen the conflict presented in
>> this way.
>> 
>> While supporters of Israel are anxious to demonstrate that even the
>> mildest criticism will lead to political banishment, that won't necessarily
>> work.  While most of his allies are taking their distance from Obama, some
>> Americans and other supporters will want to find out why he made this mild
>> criticism.  And that is an opportunity for us.
>> 
>> There is a good reason why supporters of Israel were anxious to see this
>> resolution vetoed.  Of course will it lead to very little action by the UN
>> and member governments.  But as Alan Dershowitz said as he campaigned
>> against it, it will put wind in the sails of the BDS movement.
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 13:29:36 -0500
> From: Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com>
> To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
>    <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>
> Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: To ?leftist? admirers of Assad?s Syria ? P U L
>    S E
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> But how could one fail to explode in anger when one reads statements in 
> support of the regime of the Assads, father and son, issued by men and 
> women who claim to stand on the left, and who should therefore 
> sympathize with struggles for justice everywhere? How could one fail to 
> become exasperated when one hears them praise the independence, 
> secularism, progressive character, and even ?socialism? of a lawless 
> clan that took power in an army coup more than forty-five years ago and 
> whose only concern is to keep exerting power forever? ?Assad forever?, 
> ?Assad or nobody?, ?Assad or we burn the country?, chant Assad?s 
> partisans. And his ?leftist? supporters nod approvingly under the 
> pretext that there is no other choice: it?s either him or ISIS.
> 
> And yet the Syrians who rose in 2011 were the first to vigorously 
> condemn the jihadi groups of all sorts and kinds, and in particular 
> ISIS, that have infested their popular uprising after it was forced into 
> militarization. Completely alien to the demands of liberty and dignity 
> of the popular uprising, these jihadi groups focused their attacks 
> principally on the vital forces of the opposition, whether civilian or 
> military, and cracked down on the population in the areas that they 
> managed to control. In so doing, they buttressed Assad?s propaganda 
> inside Syria as well as internationally, allowing him to portray himself 
> as a defender of religious minorities.
> 
> 
> full: https://pulsemedia.org/2016/12/24/to-leftist-admirers-of-assads-syria/
> 
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