[Marxism] Hundreds of sexual assaults in Cologne - what the hell happened – any answers from German list members?

A.R. G amithrgupta at gmail.com
Sat Jan 9 12:33:21 MST 2016


That it is clearly and obviously not what I said.

On Saturday, January 9, 2016, Kathleen McCook <klmccook at gmail.com> wrote:

> So, you are saying this is ok? That women deserve this because some
> cultures have deep-seated sexism? And to find it abhorrent is racist?
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:14 PM, A.R. G via Marxism <
> marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu
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>> I can't say I'm happy with the narrative Dennis is giving us. The author
>> of
>> the Daily Beast article that has been posted is written by the head of an
>> anti-Muslim thinktank, Quilliam. Quilliam sports former Nazis and other
>> trashy anti-immigrant types. He has also co-written a book with
>> anti-Muslim
>> "new atheist" Sam Harris. That may not negate his point of view but it
>> should be indicative of where his concerns lie.
>>
>> The fact that men would carry out such a horrible act anywhere is
>> deplorable. But you'll notice how Nawaz is playing into the narrative that
>> the rape was something to do with culture.
>>
>> For starters, many of the stories are exaggerated, mimicking the
>> racialized
>> propaganda about the black rape threat to white women that was and still
>> is
>> circulated by white supremacists. From what I can piece together from
>> accurate sources, there were 20-30 hooligans at a party of 1,000 people
>> that began groping and in some cases raping women. The only thing that
>> made
>> it remotely about "culture" was the complexion of some of the attackers.
>>
>> The rape reminded me of what goes on in Us fraternities, at some rock n
>> roll concerts, etc. It is gross and fucked up, and yet it appears that the
>> defining features of such incidents are young men in raucous environments
>> that do not respect women. Nawaz' comments about people in third workd
>> countries grabbing women as they like, outside of being a very strange
>> distortion, does not appear to have any relevance here other than to
>> suggest that when young Arab men behave as their white counterparts do,
>> that their heritage -- not widespread sexism in party and youth culture --
>> is blameworthy.
>>
>> The simple reality is that North African societies, like most societies,
>> have deep-seated patterns of sexism, but those patterns do not exist in a
>> void. Incidents like the one in Cologne should not be used to drive this
>> kind of narrative.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 9, 2016, Dennis Brasky via Marxism <
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>> > Germany’s welcoming euphoria at receiving 1.1 million asylum seekers in
>> > 2015
>> > <
>> >
>> http://news.yahoo.com/germany-recorded-1-1-mn-asylum-seekers-2015-093542978.html
>> > >
>> >  may have just turned a similarly dark corner. More than 120 criminal
>> > complaints have been filed by women in Cologne
>> > <
>> >
>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/01/05/1-000-men-coordinated-sexual-assault.html
>> > >
>> >  who say they were subjected to public sexual assault or robbery,
>> including
>> > at least two alleged street rapes, all in one night. The 400 men
>> accused of
>> > being behind this mass attack
>> > <
>> >
>> http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/world/europe/coordinated-attacks-on-women-in-cologne-were-unprecedented-germany-says.html
>> > >
>> >  formed coordinated rings around the women. They have been universally
>> > described as being of North African and Arab appearance. Police are
>> > examining
>> > <
>> >
>> http://www.ksta.de/politik/sotenoch-kein-taeter-vom-koelner-hauptbahnhof,15187246,33198026.html
>> > >
>> >  Internet forums and chat groups on the working assumption that it is
>> > unlikely 400 men just met by accident.
>> >
>> > Though this all occurred on New Year’s Eve, the absolute scandal is
>> that we
>> > only found out about it five days later. Amid accusations that it
>> > deliberately covered the incident up in order not to spark panic, the
>> > public broadcaster ZDF was forced to issue an apology
>> > <
>> >
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/12085182/Cover-up-over-Cologne-sex-assaults-blamed-on-migration-sensitivities.html
>> > >
>> >  for failing to include the assaults in its main evening news
>> broadcast. It
>> > appears that, as the authorities and the media were choosing between
>> > stirring up racial tension and these women’s rights, we were faced with
>> a
>> > conspiracy of silence.
>> >
>> > full:
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/08/why-we-can-t-stay-silent-on-germany-s-mass-sex-assaults.html
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