[Marxism] Voters Express Disgust Over U.S. Politics in New Times/CBS Poll

Louis Proyect lnp3 at panix.com
Fri Nov 4 08:54:29 MDT 2016


NY Times, Nov. 4 2016
Voters Express Disgust Over U.S. Politics in New Times/CBS Poll
By JONATHAN MARTIN, DALIA SUSSMAN and MEGAN THEE-BRENAN

An overwhelming majority of voters are disgusted by the state of 
American politics, and many harbor doubts that either major-party 
nominee can unite the country after a historically ugly presidential 
campaign, according to the final pre-election New York Times/CBS News Poll.

In a grim preview of the discontent that may cloud at least the outset 
of the next president’s term, Hillary Clinton and Donald J. Trump are 
seen by a majority of voters as unlikely to bring the country back 
together after this bitter election season.

With more than eight in 10 voters saying the campaign has left them 
repulsed rather than excited, the rising toxicity threatens the ultimate 
victor. Mrs. Clinton, the Democratic candidate, and Mr. Trump, the 
Republican nominee, are seen as dishonest and viewed unfavorably by a 
majority of voters.

While her advantage has narrowed since mid-October, Mrs. Clinton still 
has an edge in the survey because of a commanding advantage among women 
and nonwhite voters. She has the support of 45 percent of likely voters 
while Mr. Trump has 42 percent. Gary Johnson, the Libertarian nominee, 
has slipped to 5 percent, and Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate, is 
at 4 percent.

If she wins, Mrs. Clinton will enter the White House to face immediate 
governing challenges not only from the deep partisanship ruling 
Washington but also from a large number of Mr. Trump’s supporters who 
say they are not prepared to accept the results.

After weeks of Mr. Trump’s accusations that the election is “rigged,” a 
little more than six in 10 of his supporters say they will accept the 
results as legitimate if he loses. More than a quarter of Mr. Trump’s 
supporters say they will probably not accept the outcome if Mrs. Clinton 
is declared the winner, and nearly 40 percent of them say they have 
little or no confidence that Americans’ votes will be counted properly.

Republican anger is directed not only at Mrs. Clinton or the electoral 
process. About as many Republican voters say Mr. Trump’s candidacy has 
been bad for the party as believe his campaign has been positive for 
Republicans, an extraordinary divide over their own standard-bearer on 
the eve of the election.

As Republicans face the possibility of their third consecutive 
presidential loss, their own voters overwhelmingly acknowledge the party 
is facing a schism: 85 percent of Republican voters said the party was 
divided, and only 14 percent said it was united.

But Republicans cannot even agree on who is to blame for the division, 
though they largely believe Mr. Trump has been the impetus for the 
breach, according to some follow-up interviews.

“I think Donald Trump has definitely divided the party,” said Sheila 
Wagner, 79, a Republican from Redmond, Wash. She said she had already 
marked her ballot for Mrs. Clinton, adding: “When he first declared he 
was going to run, I thought it was a joke. I just couldn’t believe 
anyone would favor him.”

Yet other Republicans point the finger at Republicans who have refused 
to support Mr. Trump.

“The old school, quote unquote, the Bushes, the people who have been 
around a long time, aren’t supporting Trump, and that’s creating 
division,” said Nora Reinhardt, 66, a farmer from Holt, Mo. “Some 
Republicans, because of comments Trump has made, which I grant are 
uncouth and certainly not politically correct, have found they can’t 
support him, although I think some of those people are coming around at 
this point.”

She said she was supporting Mr. Trump because she agreed with his policy 
positions.

Whatever their reasons, and despite how many of them think Mr. Trump has 
been detrimental to the party, more than eight in 10 Republican voters 
are falling in line behind their nominee.

The nationwide telephone poll was conducted with 1,333 registered voters 
from Oct. 28 to Nov. 1 on cellphones and landlines. The margin of 
sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points for all voters.

More than 22 million Americans had already cast their ballots when the 
poll was taken, and roughly one in five likely voters who participated 
said they had already voted.

National polling averages showed a growing lead for Mrs. Clinton in 
mid-October after the release of the “Access Hollywood” recording from 
2005 in which Mr. Trump spoke crudely about women. As women from his 
past came out over the next weeks to accuse him of groping and forcibly 
kissing them, his poll numbers dipped.

Yet after a rough few weeks, enthusiasm among Mr. Trump’s supporters has 
rebounded: 52 percent now say they are very enthusiastic about voting. 
Enthusiasm among Mrs. Clinton’s supporters has been flat since 
September: 47 percent say they are very enthusiastic to vote.

Mrs. Clinton holds a 14-point advantage over her opponent among women, 
while Mr. Trump leads among men by 11 points. White women, who supported 
Republican candidates in the last three presidential elections, are now 
evenly split.

There is also a wide class divide: Mrs. Clinton has the support of 48 
percent of whites with college degrees — a constituency that 
historically votes for a Republican presidential nominee — while Mr. 
Trump is backed by 41 percent from the same voters. But Mr. Trump 
receives 55 percent from whites without college degrees, while Mrs. 
Clinton captures just 30 percent from that group.

Majorities of voters say that Mr. Trump is not qualified to be president 
and that he lacks the temperament to serve in that office.

Last Friday, when the director of the F.B.I., James B. Comey, sent a 
letter to Congress about a renewed inquiry concerning Mrs. Clinton’s 
emails, Mr. Trump seized on the chance to shift campaign’s tenor and 
focus on the controversy over her handling of emails when she was 
secretary of state.

The Times/CBS poll began hours after Mr. Comey’s letter became public. 
Most voters who were contacted said they had heard about the 
development. More voters said they were aware of accusations that Mr. 
Trump had made unwanted sexual advances toward several women.

Yet about six in 10 voters over all said the 11th-hour disclosures about 
each candidate would make no real difference in their votes. However, 
more people said the allegations about Mr. Trump were likely to 
negatively affect their votes than those who said the new email 
developments would discourage them from voting for Mrs. Clinton.

Four in 10 likely voters said Mr. Trump’s behavior toward women made 
them less likely to support him while fewer, one-third, said the newest 
development in the F.B.I. investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s emails had 
that effect.

Also bolstering Mrs. Clinton, and the possibility of a third straight 
Democratic term in the White House, is President Obama’s popularity. 
Fifty-two percent of registered voters approve of the job Mr. Obama is 
doing, an increase from earlier this year.

While Mr. Obama’s standing has increased, the campaign has taken a toll 
on Mrs. Clinton’s image. Only 32 percent of voters say she is honest and 
trustworthy, and a quarter of Democrats and nearly six in 10 
independents do not think she will be able to unite the country if she wins.

“The campaign has gotten uglier and uglier,” said Michael Pappas, a real 
estate broker in Knoxville, Tenn., who is a Republican. “It’s been about 
mudslinging and attacking personalities instead of talking about issues, 
talking about how we can help our country move forward and succeed.”

Giovanni Russonello and Marina Stefan contributed reporting.




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