[Marxism] The events in relation to Benghazi and Syria explained
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Wed Oct 5 18:51:11 MDT 2016
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Clay Claiborne <clayclai at gmail.com> wrote:
> In this case Mafiba is wrong and I am right:
> BLACK PEOPLE WILL PREVAIL IN THE WORLD
>> The latest age of slavery has been the enslavement of Blacks by White
>> people. The memory of this age will persist in the thinking of Black people
>> until they have vindicated themselves.
>> This tragic and historic event, the resulting bitter feeling, and the
>> yearning for the vindication of a whole race, constitute a psychological
>> motivation of Black people to vengeance and triumph that cannot be
> from Qaddafi's Green Book, p 29. And how does Qaddafi expect that black
> people will achieve that vindication?
> Black people are now in a very backward social situation, but such
>> backwardness works to bring about their numerical superiority because their
>> low standard of living has shielded them from methods of birth control and
>> family planning. Also, their old social traditions place no limit on
>> marriages, leading to their accelerated growth. The population of other
>> races has decreased because of birth control, restrictions on marriage, and
>> constant occupation in work, unlike the Blacks, who tend to be less
>> obsessive about work in a climate which is continuously hot.
> from Qaddafi's Green Book, p 30. So we will do it through shear forces of
> numbers, by the explosive population growth of "starving and ignorant
> From his 33 page 'book' that even today, he hands out wherever he goes,
> it's easy to see that Mummar Qaddafi promotes a lot of the standard racist
> mythology that black people are lazy and promiscuous. He also uses the
> spectra of increasing hordes of blacks looking for vengeance to create a
> climate of fear, another standard racist ploy. As we will see, racism and
> the creation of discord between Africans and Arabs has been one of the keys
> to his 42 year rule. Another is his cynical and self-serving manipulation
> of contradictions among the people in sub-Saharan Africa.
> > Qaddafi and African Immigrants
> > Last August, Qaddafi attempted to use European fear of unchecked waves
> of African immigrants to extort money from the Europe, telling them the EU
> should pay Libya at least 5bn euros (£4bn; $6.3bn) a year to stop illegal
> African immigration and avoid a "black Europe".
> > "Tomorrow Europe might no longer be European, and even black, as there
> are millions who want to come in," said Col Gaddafi, quoted by the AFP news
> > "We don't know what will happen, what will be the reaction of the white
> and Christian Europeans faced with this influx of starving and ignorant
> Africans," Col Gaddafi said.
> > "We don't know if Europe will remain an advanced and united continent or
> if it will be destroyed, as happened with the barbarian invasions."
> > When it comes to immigrant policy, Qaddafi is on the same page as Anders
> Behring Breivik and other violent neo-fascists that are troubling Europe.
> For much of the past decade, Qaddafi has been working withwell known
> racist, Silvio Berelusoni, the Italian PM, to turn Libya into the cork that
> keeps African immigrants bottled up. In September 2004 Human Rights Watch
> > Libya’s recent immigration “reforms,” introduced by Colonel Muammar
> Gadaffi apparently after overtures from Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi,
> resemble a catalogue of human rights abuses against migrants and
> asylum-seekers. African internees and migrants in Libya are being detained
> in what one MEP has described as “catastrophic conditions.” And Libya
> continues forcibly to deport Eritrean refugees to Eritrea, where they face
> arrest, illegal detention and torture. If Libya is called on to run EU
> processing camps, we can surely expect more of the same.
> > Last December, HRW wrote about Libya in their world report on abuse and
> detentions at borders:
> > Since May 2009, Italy has joined forces with Libya to patrol the waters
> from the coast of Libya to Italy’s Mediterranean territories, principally
> the island of Lampedusa. Libya in 2010 operated patrol boats provided by
> Italy with Italian personnel on board to interdict boat migrants on the
> high seas and in Libyan waters and return them summarily to Libya with no
> screening to identify refugees, the sick or injured, pregnant women,
> unaccompanied children, victims of trafficking, or victims of violence
> against women. All interdicted boat migrants are detained upon arrival in
> Libya in overcrowded and unsanitary conditions. Libya is not a party to the
> 1951 Refugee Convention and has no asylum law or procedure. In April,
> Libyan Foreign Secretary Moussa Koussa said his country “does not have any
> refugees but only illegal migrants who break the laws.” In July the
> government said that there were 3 million irregular migrants in Libya. A
> new law on “Illegal Migration” criminalizes trafficking of migrants but
> does not mention protections for refugees.
> > In June, Libya closed the office of the UN High Commissioner for
> Refugees (UNHCR) in Tripoli and expelled its representative. It later
> allowed the office nominally to reopen but only with highly restricted
> permission to work on behalf of refugees and asylum seekers whom it had
> registered prior to closing, and without access to newly detained migrants
> and asylum seekers.
> > On June 28, a group of detained Eritrean migrants tried to escape from a
> migrant detention center after Libyan officials allowed Eritrean embassy
> officials to take their photos and forced them to complete forms raising
> fear of deportation. In response, Libyan authorities transported 245
> Eritrean detainees from the Misrata detention on Libya’s northern coast to
> another detention center at al-Biraq, north of Sabha, in an apparent
> attempt to deport them. Some of these Eritreans were among those whom Italy
> had forcibly returned to Libya without giving them an opportunity to claim
> asylum. After an international outcry, Libya released this group but did
> not provide them with any support or protection. They remain in Libya.
> Clay Claiborne, Director
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> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Andrew Stewart <
> hasc.warrior.stew at gmail.com> wrote:
>> God forbid someone show support for a government of which Nelson Mandela
>> “I have also invited Brother Leader Gaddafi to this country [South
>> Africa]. And I do that because our moral authority dictates that we should
>> not abandon those who helped us in the darkest hour in the history of this
>> country. Not only did they [Libya] support us in return, they gave us the
>> resources for us to conduct the struggle, and to win. And those South
>> Africans who have berated me, for being loyal to our friends, literally
>> they can go and throw themselves into a pool.”
>> But what does Madiba know in comparison to Clay?
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Clay Claiborne <clayclai at gmail.com>
>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Andrew Stewart via Marxism <
>>> marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:
>>> Its a sad day when I see some of the most extreme CT supports for the
>>> fascist Gaddafi regime:
>>> In brief, we know from the emails that Clinton’s longtime aide and press
>>>> operative Sidney Blumenthal emailed her multiple times about new
>>>> developments within Libya regarding a new Golden Dinar currency that
>>>> Muammar al Gaddafi was developing. Backed with the accumulated wealth of
>>>> the Libyan state from its nationalized oil resources as well as large
>>>> stores of gold and silver, the Golden Dinar was intended as a pan-African
>>>> currency that would pose a serious threat to the American dollar, the EU
>>>> euro, and the French franc.
>>> And some of the most chauvinist attacks on the Libyan thuwar:
>>>> What emerged in Libya as the US-backed rebels began to take control was
>>>> simply a pogrom. Black Africans were lynched by these rebel Islamists with
>>>> a viciousness and systemic nature that goes hand-in-hand with their brand
>>>> of extremism, an ideology that embraces racism, homophobia, and sexism
>>>> backed by American ally Saudi Arabia.
>>>> In other words, Clinton was aligning herself with the very deplorables
>>>> she now pigeonholes as followers of her opponent.
>>> Recycled on this list. Louis may embrace his new friends but I stand by
>>> my defense of the Libyan revolution. This is all trash I debunked years ago.
>>> Its no accident that US Greens turn out to be big supporters of fascism
>>> worldwide. In my next blog post I will show how fascist Trump supporters
>>> are warming up to Jill.
>>> Clay Claiborne, Director
>>> Vietnam: American Holocaust <http://VietnamAmericanHolocaust.com>
>>> Linux Beach Productions
>>> Venice, CA 90291
>>> (310) 581-1536
>>> Read my blogs at the Linux Beach <http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/>
>> Best regards,
>> Andrew Stewart
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