[Marxism] Is economic struggle subversive?

Paddy Hackett paraichackett at gmail.com
Fri Oct 14 07:26:11 MDT 2016


I did not want to suggest that there is a disconnect between organised worker seeking wage increases and the struggle for revolution.

My ambition was more modest. I just wanted to highlight my view that these struggles by workers are economic struggles and not political. They are not a challenge to the system. However that does not mean I am necessarily against such actions by workers. But their modest nature needs to be recognised for what they are. Much of the Left tend to glorify, even fetishise, such interventions.

Take Care

On 14 Oct 2016, at 14:12, Louis Proyect via Marxism <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:

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> On 10/14/16 8:55 AM, Mike Sola wrote:
>> On 10/14/2016 8:29 AM, Louis Proyect via Marxism wrote:
>> What is this? The last of the DeLeonists?
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> Isn't he saying the opposite of De Leon?

I said DeLeonist, not De Leon.

Frankly, I have no idea whether there was a DeLeonist sect in Ireland but this distinction between reforms and "communism" comes straight out of the Socialist Labor Party, an American group based on De Leon's writings who despite positing the reform versus revolution dichotomy was still a formidable thinker.

His followers turned the reform versus revolution into a virtual religion standing on the sidelines throughout the 20th century casting aspersions on the CIO struggles of the 1930s, the Vietnam antiwar movement, etc. All of these "reforms" like creating industrial unions and ending the war on the Vietnamese were distractions from the main task: socialism.

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