[Marxism] Vote for Clinton?

Carl G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Thu Sep 1 01:26:41 MDT 2016


Is the presidential election about personalities or policies?

For more than a generation neoliberal policies - in both Republican and Democrat administrations - have produced increasing inequality (and at an accelerating rate). At the same time neoconservative policies - again in administrations of both parties - produced the crime of the century (so far), the invasion of Iraq, and also the first US president to be at war throughout two presidential terms. (Obama has attacked eight countries; Bush only attacked six.)

Trump is the first candidate of either major party in more than a generation to pay homage neither to neoliberalism nor to neoconservatism. He has rejected neoliberal policies (trade pacts, from NAFTA to TTIP) and neoconservative ones (Nato; provocation of Russia) as well. For that reason he is hated and feared by the political establishment (in both parties).

“The CIA has demanded Trump is not elected. Pentagon generals have demanded he is not elected. The pro-war New York Times - taking a breather from its relentless low-rent Putin smears - demands that he is not elected. Something is up. These tribunes of 'perpetual war' are terrified that the multi-billion-dollar business of war by which the United States maintains its dominance will be undermined if Trump does a deal with Putin, then with China's Xi Jinping. Their panic at the possibility of the world's great power talking peace - however unlikely - would be the blackest farce were the issues not so dire.” [John Pilger]

Clinton champions neoconservatism and neoliberalism but can say so only indirectly because those policies - more war and more inequality - are not popular. Therefore she must try to distract the public from the policies that she would follow in office by directing attention to Trump's less than attractive personality. But there are indications that it's not working, as her lead in the polls shrinks, in spite of her overwhelming support from the media.

As William Blum (author of “Killing Hope: U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions Since World War II") says, “Yes, Trump’s personally obnoxious. I’d have a very hard time being his friend. Who cares?” 

—CGE

> On Sep 1, 2016, at 12:36 AM, Clay Claiborne via Marxism <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:
> 
> You don't have to buy Clinton's reasons for voting for her to vote for her.
> That's very simplistic thinking, not strategic. You can and should vote for
> her as the only practical way to deny Trump the WH.
> 
> I guarantee you non-white Americans will get that because that is exactly
> what they will be doing, and not because they believe the horsecrap. They
> do believe the hatred coming from only one campaign for the WH even if it
> doesn't get much mention here.
> 
> I have say that Jill Stein's LA rally was objectively pro-Trump - see
> another reply for details.
> 
> If the Green Party targets its campaign more to win votes away from Clinton
> than from Trump, as an engineer I have to recognize that represents a bias
> towards Trump.
> 
> I've covered how her tweet are objectively pro-Trump,
> http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2016/08/how-jillstein-tweets-for-trump.html
> 
> but i think the same can be said about her whole campaign - BTW Putin
> doesn't have any problem with that - why else 105 articles in RT -
> certainly not because he wants RT to do good work.
> 





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