[Marxism] Fwd: Some thoughts on tomorrow's protests

michael a. lebowitz mlebowit at sfu.ca
Tue Apr 18 23:00:35 MDT 2017

Hi Gary,
     I've been away from vzla for a while now and am restricted to what 
I get from aporrea, venezuelanalyis, what marta watches on telesur, 
globovision and vtv plus letters we receive from friends there. 
Certainly, the situation is grim there-- not impossible for a 
revolutionary government with Chavez's periodic audacity-- but the 
current government has certainly been stalled [presumably because of 
competing agendas and visions]. It occasionally takes important steps 
[like the move to local food distribution, the CLACs], and the response 
this week looks critical.
Steve Ellner knows well what is happening, and I read his message in 
relation to tomorrow's opposition mobilisation [which I posted earlier] 
as saying, 'no pasaran'. Maduro's call for the 'red tide' vs the 
opposition march tomorrow says the same, and the focus on arming the 
militias [which should have been done already] points to the longer 
struggle. Years ago, Marx said that slaveholders' revolts put the sword 
in the hands of the social revolution. Let's hope.
     in solidarity,

On 4/18/2017 5:43 PM, Gary MacLennan wrote:
> Is the Maduro government going to fall, Michael?  he seems to be 
> trapped half way to the revolution and surrounded by enemies who see 
> compromise for weakness.  I am all for broad coalitions etc, a la 
> Chavez, but the Right seem to want to call a ruthless Leninism into 
> being. we had Allende and they had Pinochet.
> comradely
> Gary
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>     > Subject: Some thoughts on tomorrow's protests
>     >
>     >
>     >>
>     >> All the opposition marches in April called by Henrique Capriles
>     and other Venezuelan leaders of the MUD have sought to reach
>     downtown Caracas. The ostensible goal is to present a petition to
>     the Defensoria del Pueblo. In a normal situation, such a
>     mobilization would certainly be legitimate. But opposition leaders
>     fully realize that the government will not allow for the
>     protesters to march from the wealthy eastern part of Caracas to
>     the downtown area. There are echoes of the April 11, 2002 march
>     that led into the coup against President Chávez, when the
>     opposition newspaper El Nacional published the large banner
>     headline “The Final Battle in Miraflores,” encouraging people that
>     day to march to the presidential palace.
>     >>
>     >> Let us assume that the Maduro government, acting in good faith,
>     were to allow the opposition protesters to march to the center of
>     Caracas. Such a scenario would go something like this:
>     >>
>     >> Scenario one: The Maduro government meets with opposition
>     leaders and grants them permission to march to the center of
>     Caracas. The opposition agrees to limit the march to 35,000 people
>     and to end the protest in the late afternoon.
>     >>
>     >> Scenario two: Peaceful march to the center of Caracas.
>     Everything goes according to plan.
>     >>
>     >> Scenario three: Opposition leaders such as Freddy Guervara (as
>     he has said in the past) announces that the opposition will remain
>     in the center of Caracas until their demands are met. The less
>     extremist leaders such as Capriles now call on their followers to
>     join the protest and people come in from the eastern part of
>     Caracas, from the eastern part of Venezuela and from the west as
>     far away as Táchira, Mérida and Maracaibo. There are now 750,000
>     protesters in the center of Caracas.
>     >>
>     >> Scenario four: At nighttime, the guarimba brigades, which
>     during the 2014 protests were responsible for widespread
>     destruction and violence and have acted in a similar way in recent
>     days, go on a rampage and clash with national guardsmen and police.
>     >>
>     >> Scenario five: CNN and other international news outlets
>     juxtapose the confrontation of the guarimba brigades with security
>     forces, on the one hand, and the peaceful protesters, on the
>     other, thus leaving the impression that the government is using
>     random force against peaceful protesters (April 11, 2002 anyone?).
>     >>
>     >> Scenario six: At this point Maduro may see the handwriting on
>     the wall in which case he resigns. If he doesn’t, we can all
>     imagine scenarios seven, eight and nine.
>     >>
>     >> from my blog
>     http://steveellnersblog.blogspot.com/2017/04/what-would-happen-if-venezuelan.html
>     <http://steveellnersblog.blogspot.com/2017/04/what-would-happen-if-venezuelan.html>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >
>     >
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