[Marxism] Fwd: Trump’s Fledgling Presidency Has Already Collapsed

Ralph Johansen mdriscollrj at charter.net
Wed Aug 9 20:50:07 MDT 2017

Louis Proyect On 8/8/17 12:35 PM wrote,

Jeff wrote:
Let's see: an authoritarian figure gaining increased or dictatorial 
powers after rallying his nation to war. Do possibilities of that sort 
not concern readers of this list?

No, there will be no dictatorship in the USA--not as long as bourgeois 
democracy can ensure Nissan workers voting against their own class 
interests. Why would the American ruling class sanction a risky and 
unnecessary fascist state when the electoral machine keeps everybody 
under its thumb so well? With the largest socialist group in the USA 
determined to support Democratic candidates, why rock the boat?

I agree and disagree, Lou.

We may not have the what we formally call a dictatorship in the classic 
sense, but don't we already have lock down means of social control, in 
place increasingly with the coming of the Clintonites - who still in 
case anyone hasn't noticed control the Democratic Party?

Consider the fact that beginning more or less with Bill Clinton we have 
been becoming as a society an authoritarian state, with the unleashing 
of the banks domestically and globally to prey without having to pay, 
increasingly indebted to the bondholders, while employment becomes more 
and more uncertain and inadequate to our needs for sustenance - health, 
education and welfare. With the screws on so tightly that the great 
preponderance of us, including the rather crucial, now-encumbered 
students, are no longer at liberty to effectively protest, fearing that 
with the debtor/carceral/surveillance/military'imperialist regime 
developing more and more we can lose our jobs and therefore our cars, 
homes, furnishings, education, tchotchkes and life chances. As capital 
continues to base expansion on printing money not constrained by its 
relationship to gold and silver, piling one humongous number on the last 
through 'quantitative easing,' bailouts, the Pentagon and what have you 
- debt which is a claim on our future value and which we and our progeny 
must pay, our futures, as David Harvey says, are being foreclosed, by 
the debtor economy that has been largely, steadily moving in alongside 
neoliberalism during the past thirty years.

And then by way of recourse, more than a few of us had been counting on 
the 76-year old Bernie, almost as millions counted on the contrived, 
empty promises of a much-younger Obama in 2008. Here's my take on the 
prospects with Bernie, and how he probably sees it as well: since his 
election to the House in 1990, ostensibly as an independent, he has been 
carrying water for the Mississippi of the North, the state of Vermont, 
through Congressional horse-trading, caucusing with the Democrats, 
influential committee assignments and access to power, retention of 
which is all vital to the well-being of his largely-deprived 
constituency. So to spell that out, he is in thrall to a networking 
system, he reports to Schumer and the Wall Street leadership (he's now 
'Senator Outreach' of the party, in an era where no New Deal with any 
source of fresh jobs with any legs is in prospect), and if he failed to 
deliver in his home base his long-time electoral constituency could 
evaporate, and all the knives would come at him come the next election. 
So what could anyone expect from this lifelong establishment politician? 
How could he abandon all that and try to lead a motley gaggle out to 
another party without any established, well-seated organization or 
disciplined, time-tested, experienced backers, his vulnerability to all 
the twists of establishment formal electoral procedures when the party 
dumps him completely, or steady access to media and national attention - 
however much he might still be able to raise funds independent of Wall 

Isn't it just about axiomatic that an establishment politician many 
years in the saddle in that corrupt institution is not  the sort we can 
pin our hopes on? Who then? As with the guy who came in for a shave, the 
barber lathered him, took off the sheet and said that'll be five dollars 
and the guy said how about my shave, to which the barber responded and I 
retort, Oh, we just lather here.

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