[Marxism] North Korea

Gary MacLennan gary.maclennan1 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 21 04:44:46 MDT 2017

Hi John

I belong to the proxy threat to China school of thought (Oops). Admittedly,
we do not have all the information we need.  I think that China warned
Trump that they would not tolerate a nuclear attack on North Korea.  That
they would have done secretly. Publicly, they threatened North Korea with
Chinese neutrality if North Korea attacked first.

So a stand off has resumed.

I do not put much store in one quote from Bannon.  The point is that the
American state is fragmented and it contains sections that want a contest
of strength with China.  Here in Australia when the "Defence lobby" appear
on tv they are blood thirsty "all the way with the USA" types.  Yet China
is our number one trading partner and we sold the port of Darwin to the

Now North Korea has directly threatened Australia because our weak PM said
we would join any war on Korea/

My own guess is that the corrupt cabal that runs China would like to ditch
North Korea but they cannot. A nuclear attack on the North would be seen by
most Chinese as the Korean War Act 2. We all know that Act 1 was aimed at



On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 7:57 PM, John Reimann via Marxism <
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> "Not since 2002, as the United States built a case for war in Iraq, has
> there been so much debate inside the White House about the merits — and the
> enormous risks — of pre-emptive military action against an adversary
> nation. Like its predecessors, the Trump administration is trying to
> pressure North Korea through sanctions to dismantle its nuclear program.
> But both President Trump and his national security adviser, Lt. Gen. H. R.
> McMaster, have talked openly about a last-resort option if diplomacy fails
> and the nuclear threat mounts: what General McMaster describes as
> “preventive war.”"
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/20/world/asia/north-korea-
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> I am curious what comrades think as to the cause of this build-up. Some say
> that it's simply a proxy for a "war" with China, but I'm not convinced. For
> one thing, the recently departed Steve Bannon, who is a real hawk as far as
> China, opposed a military attack on N. Korea. I know others who claim it is
> simply a matter of opposition to one of the remaining non-capitalist
> countries in the world. But present N. Korean economic policy is similar to
> the economic policies of Gorbachev in the waning years of the Soviet Union.
> I do think there is the concern of N. Korea spreading nuclear weapon
> technology to a whole host of other secondary powers, including Iran.
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