[Marxism] Comey Firing: US a "Failing State"
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Wed May 10 21:15:21 MDT 2017
I don't know if Carl read the article I sent or is just responding in
general, but I most definitely did not mention that the Comey firing was an
assault on "democracy", nor did I mention anthing about Russian hacking the
election. I did mention Trump's financial ties to Russian
investors/oligarchs/mobsters, and this is simply a matter of record. It's
well established. And I did say that Trump is using the executive branch of
the US government to further his own personal financial interests at the
expense of the global interests of the mainstream of the US capitalist
Why are we supposed to care?
Try this: If the enemy is in crisis, shouldn't we be aware of it and
consider its implications?
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
> [John Steppling] I keep reading postings about how Trump firing the head
> of the FBI is an assault on democracy, or the American way of life, or
> something. The front page of the Huffington Post is hysterical with cries
> for the need to investigate Russian hacking. I have had three friends (sic)
> refuse to discuss this with me when I questioned their sanity in believing
> the russian hacking narrative. Not argue it...but refuse to argue it. Not
> one, but three. There is no evidence of anything out of the ordinary here.
> If there were, trust me we would have heard about it by now.
> So what I take from this is that the white establishment....to which the
> aforementioned friends belong, really, is in crises. If Obama had fired the
> head of the FBI what would the reaction have been? (the answer is nothing.)
> But how is the US/Saudi assault on a defenceless Yemen not an assault on
> Democracy? I mean congress didn't authorize it did they? Or how is the orgy
> of state murder in Arkansas...including the suppression of new evidence
> that might have exonerated one of the men executed.....how is that not an
> assault on Democracy? How is the illegal assassination of Qadaffi not an
> assault on Democracy or the coup orchestrated by Clinton as secretary of
> state in Ukraine not an assault on Democracy? How is the coup in Honduras
> or the current attacks on Venezuela not ....well...you get the idea. How is
> the war on Syria.....and it is ON SYRIA.....how is that not cause for
> outrage? None of these things matter to liberal America. Dead Arab
> children....pshaw...can't be bothered. The execution of mentally impaired
> men, from the underclass, denied adequate representation....meh, cant be
> bothered. BUT....but when Trump fires the head of a notoriously corrupt
> organ of surveillance and arrest and worse.....an organization founded to
> quell dissent and rid the nation of commies and minority
> troublemakers......how am I supposed to care exactly?…
> > On May 10, 2017, at 3:37 PM, John Reimann via Marxism <
> marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:
> > Make no mistake, President Trump's firing of FBI director John Comey
> > represents a crisis for the US capitalist class. It's one more indication
> > that it cannot control the executive wing of its government. Trump claims
> > that he fired Comey because of the latter's handling of the investigation
> > of Hillary Clinton and his lack of repentence over this. However, just
> > before the firing it's reported that Comey had asked for additional funds
> > to investigate alleged Russian meddling into the US elections. Such an
> > election would inevitably have opened up the financial ties between Trump
> > and Russian investors and outright mobsters.
> > https://oaklandsocialist.com/2017/05/10/comey-fired-us-a-failing-state/
> > John Reimann
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