[Marxism] [UCE] What lies behind Trump's troop withdrawal from Syria and what it means

John Reimann 1999wildcat at gmail.com
Fri Dec 21 00:07:01 MST 2018


Every single member of Trump's administration strongly disagrees with
Trump. This includes the two who are in his inner circle and are the very
most hawkish - Pompeo and Bolton. The three of them (including Trump) have
two and only two concerns as far as that region: Iran and the Islamic
State. And Trump's withdrawal strengthens the both. So how to explain this
complete isolation of Trump from every single one of his administration,
except possibly his family (Ivanka, Kusnher and Donald Jr.)? It simply
doesn't make sense to me to explain it as a tactical division, not when
nobody else agrees with him. Remember the last time he wanted to crawl out
on a limb, when he wanted to invade Venezuela. He dropped that because he
saw he was isolated in his own administration and the issue really didn't
matter that much to him. As far as Erdogan: I agree, Erdogan doesn't have
that much influence on him, but with whom is Erdogan closest? Putin. Given
the circumstances, Putin could not directly communicate with Trump. So it
makes complete sense that he'd use Erdogan as his messenger. That's why I
had guessed so on Wednesday and then, the next day it turned out that the
two (Erdogan and Putin) had been on the phone just two days earlier.

Let's look at it another way: I think it's difficult to conceive of the
President of the United States as being beholden to the Russian oligarchy
vs. simply having a personal affinity. I've noticed that almost nobody on
the left has taken up the issue of Trump's having served as a money
launderer for these oligarchs. It's too weird to conceive of - a president
of the United States having served in that capacity. Just like the fact
that his former personal helicopter pilot is a convicted drug smuggler. I
mean, if somebody had written a novel about this, we would tell the author
to write something that at least has a shred of credibility.

But think about this: If somebody had told you in 2014 that Trump, with all
his weirdness, was going to be president, wouldn't you have said that
person is nuts? I would have. In fact, I never thought he'd come close to
winning the nomination and once he did I assumed that Hillary was going to
be the next president. I know I'm not alone in that. My point is that we
have to start looking at the world through new eyes. What's happening in
the White House is a lot more weird than what meets the eye, and that's
saying a lot.

Once again, I urge the comrades to take a look at some of the articles
<https://oaklandsocialist.com/?s=Trump+money+launderer> on Trump's role as
a money launderer. They all are well documented, but this one
<https://oaklandsocialist.com/2018/07/28/we-dont-care/> has links to all
the articles I know of that reveal the facts. And these are not articles
from the conspiracy theorist web sites. The most recent article that I know
of is from last Sunday's SF Chronicle, one of the two main bourgeois
newspapers on California, and was written by US Representative Jackie
Speier (D, CA). Again, to emphasize: I think it really has not sunken in
that the *president of the United States is a money launderer for the
Russian mafia.* In fact, I think a lot of comrades simply don't believe it
in their heart of hearts. That's the only explanation I can find for why
nearly nobody on the left is raising this fact. Once people start from that
fact, then a lot of other things make sense.

John Reimann

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 10:20 PM Chris Slee <chris_w_slee at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Erdogan may well have influenced Trump, but he was not acting as a
> "messenger" for Putin.
>
> Erdogan has always been hostile to Rojava and the Democratic Federation of
> Northern Syria.  He has always complained about US support for the Syrian
> Democratic Forces.
>
> Trump is returning to the longstanding US policy of full support for the
> Turkish state against the Kurdish left.  There was a partial departure from
> this policy when the US began supporting the YPG against ISIS in 2014.  But
> it was only partial.  During this period the US and its allies continued to
> support  Turkey against the PKK.  They continued to ban the PKK as a
> "terrorist organisation".
>
> Chris Slee
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> *From:* Marxism <marxism-bounces at lists.csbs.utah.edu> on behalf of John
> Reimann via Marxism <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>
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> *Subject:* [Marxism] [UCE] What lies behind Trump's troop withdrawal from
> Syria and what it means
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> The main reason for his withdrawal is that he got his marching orders from
> his paymaster, Putin. As I had predicted last night on Facebook, these
> orders apparently came through Erdogan, with whom he'd been on the phone
> just a couple of days earlier. This decision not only means a new stage in
> Syria, it threatens to force an all-out war by the mainstream of the US
> capitalist class against Trump, who has shown once again that he is Putin's
> agent. Even his closest foreign policy advisors - Bolton and Pompeo - are
> adamantly against this withdrawal. Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi is hinting at
> raising Trump's links with and dependence on the Russian oligarchy.
>
> For international working class solidarity instead of relying on ANY
> capitalist/imperialist force be it the US, Russia, or any other!
> Read full article here:
>
> https://oaklandsocialist.com/2018/12/20/trump-withdraws-troops-from-syria-what-does-it-mean/
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