[Marxism] Patreon Bars Anti-Feminist for Racist Speech, Inciting Revolt
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NY Times, Dec. 26, 2018
Patreon Bars Anti-Feminist for Racist Speech, Inciting Revolt
By Nellie Bowles
Sam Harris, the polemical atheist neuroscientist known for his popular
podcast “Waking Up,” was making tens of thousands of dollars a month
from fans who donated to him through Patreon, a crowdfunding site.
That stopped this month. On Dec. 6, Patreon kicked the anti-feminist
polemic Carl Benjamin, who works under the name Sargon of Akkad, off its
site for using racist language on YouTube. That same week, it removed
the right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos a day after he opened an
The moves prompted a revolt. Mr. Harris, citing worries about
censorship, announced that he would leave Patreon. He was joined in
protest by about half a dozen other prominent members of the site,
including the conservative-leaning psychologist Jordan Peterson and the
libertarian podcaster Dave Rubin, who also earn money from Patreon.
“These recent expulsions seem more readily explained by political bias,”
Mr. Harris wrote to his followers.
The furor is a microcosm of the conflicts that are playing out across
the internet as technology platforms try to limit the spread of hateful
This year, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube have all drawn increasingly
stark lines around what constitutes hate speech and are figuring out how
to enforce those rules. In August, for example, Apple, Google and
Facebook banned the right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones for
violating hate speech rules, setting off a cascading effect.
But as tech platforms try to get a handle on the issue, they are stoking
the ire of their content creators, many of whom brand themselves as free
speech warriors. Some accuse the companies of censorship. Others say the
tech sites are biased and that hate speech is an ambiguous term. Now the
digital dissent is becoming increasingly widespread, upending even
“The concept of hate speech is irreducibly subjective and vague,” said
Nadine Strossen, author of “Hate: Why We Should Resist It With Free
Speech, Not Censorship.”
Patreon, founded in 2013 by Jack Conte, a musician and disc jockey, is
valued at $450 million and employs about 170 people in San Francisco.
Fans donate to the content creators on the site whom they enjoy, and
Patreon takes a 5 percent cut of the income.
While the site is relatively small, with a little over 100,000 creators
and two million people donating monthly to those creators, it has become
the de facto paycheck for a cohort of prominent self-styled internet
philosophers who eschew or have been ousted from traditional bastions
like universities or magazines.
Among Patreon’s hodgepodge of creators is the left-leaning podcast group
Chapo Trap House, which makes more than $110,000 a month from the site,
according to Graphtreon, which tracks Patreon activity. Mr. Peterson, a
best-selling author, earns around $66,000 a month from the site.
Sex-related content creators are also getting monthly subscribers on
Patreon, and a Pokemon Go community is the top earner, making up to
$500,000 a month, according to Graphetreon.
Patreon takes a highly personal approach to policing speech. While
Google and Facebook use algorithms as a first line of defense for
questionable content, Patreon has human moderators. They give warnings
and reach out to talk to offenders, presenting options for “education”
and “reform.” Some activists hope this will become a model for a better
and kinder internet.
“There are no automated takedowns,” Mr. Conte said. “As a creator myself
dealing with these big tech platforms and getting an automated takedown
notice, there’s no appeals process. You can’t talk to a human. And I
never want to do that.”
Jaqueline Hart, Patreon’s head of trust and safety, said her team
watches for and will investigate complaints about any content posted on
Patreon and on other sites like YouTube and Facebook that violates what
it defines as hate speech. That includes “serious attacks, or even
negative generalizations, of people based on their race [and] sexual
orientation,” she has said.
If someone has breached Patreon’s policy, the company contacts the
offender with a specific plan, which usually involves asking for the
content to be removed and for a public apology.
Ms. Hart said around 10 percent of Patreon employees were dedicated to
her trust and safety team.CreditJim McAuley for The New York Times
The conversations with creators can quickly become complicated, nuanced,
and, well, human, she said. Among other challenges, Patreon has to
decide what qualifies as a sincere and thorough apology. Still, having
human moderators has changed its users’ behaviors more than simply
deleting accounts would, Ms. Hart said.
“We hand-hold creators, and we work with them one on one, and nearly
every creator reforms — and so it’s quite a successful process,” she said.
The work takes up a large amount of resources. Ms. Hart said around 10
percent of Patreon employees are dedicated to her team.
This month, the site’s moderators received a complaint about Mr.
Benjamin, who had risen to fame railing against diversity and feminism
during the GamerGate movement in 2014. Mr. Benjamin used the N-word and
anti-gay language during an interview posted to YouTube on Feb. 7,
On Dec. 6, the company told Mr. Benjamin that it would freeze his
account and that he could appeal. Mr. Benjamin objected and said the
video in question should not fall under Patreon’s rules because it was
For Mr. Benjamin, the timing was surprising. “My brand has been
politically incorrect for years,” he said in a video he later posted to
his YouTube channel called “The Patreon Witch Trials.”
Mr. Benjamin, who did not respond to requests for comment, has 870,000
subscribers on YouTube and had more than 3,000 subscribers on Patreon,
from which he had been making around $12,000 a month. Many of his videos
show just a static cartoon or a series of images, with his voice
speaking against movements for gender equality.
More recently, Mr. Benjamin has moved from the fringe toward the heart
of the new right. In October, he posted an hourlong interview with Steve
Bannon, President Trump’s former chief strategist.
Mr. Benjamin did not respond to attempts to engage him in the reform
process, Ms. Hart said.
“His response to us when we told him about the reform process was to
nitpick and say, ‘I was being anti-Nazi,’” Ms. Hart said. “You cannot
say those words on our platform. It doesn’t matter who you’re directing
His removal from Patreon immediately stirred up others on the site.
“I think the most likely outcome, if this continues, is that all
contentious speech or behavior will put the speaker or actor at risk of
serious financial and social sanctions, and strip them of all defense,”
Mr. Peterson wrote in an email.
Mr. Rubin, the libertarian podcaster, tweeted, “The Platform War has begun.”
Mr. Rubin and Mr. Peterson said they plan to start their own version of
Patreon, which will be less censorious. Mr. Peterson said his Patreon
subscriptions had dropped to around 7,500, from about 10,000 over the
summer, according to Graphtreon.
It’s unclear how effective Mr. Peterson’s and Mr. Rubin’s efforts will
be. Alternatives to mainstream sites, such as the white
supremacy-oriented Hatreon, have largely been failures.
And while many internet creators argue that Silicon Valley is trying to
censor free speech, what the companies are doing is legal, said Vera
Eidelman, staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union’s
speech, privacy and technology project. “The First Amendment right is on
the side of the company,” she said.
Those quitting Patreon in solidarity with Mr. Benjamin may have other
motives behind their sudden outrage, Mr. Conte said. As content creators
using the site grow more famous and their income more significant, the 5
percent cut that Patreon takes of their donations may have begun to seem
cumbersome, he said. Other large creators are joining the rebellion.
“You can use a press debacle like this to drum up your community and
rile people up and get them to support a cause,” Mr. Conte said. “We
In his exit note from Patreon, Mr. Harris, who gathered his fan base as
a pugnacious atheist and fierce critic of Islam, wrote that he wanted
his business interests to be freed from the site. He singled out Ms.
“I consider it no longer tenable to expose any part of my podcast
funding to the whims of Patreon’s ‘Trust and Safety’ committee,” Mr.
Harris wrote. He added a link to his own website, where fans can enter
their credit card information and choose a monthly contribution.
Follow Nellie Bowles on Twitter: @NellieBowles.
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