[Marxism] Fwd: How Democrats Lost Their Spine | Time

Carl G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Tue Jan 23 14:11:26 MST 2018

The Brexit vote (“leave”) was in fact the right vote for the British working class, as Richard Tuck explains:

<https://www.dissentmagazine.org/online_articles/left-case-brexit <https://www.dissentmagazine.org/online_articles/left-case-brexit>>. —CGE

> On Jan 23, 2018, at 2:18 PM, John Reimann via Marxism <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:
> In the first place, the Democrats did not "lose their spine". They simply
> represent their class - the capitalist class. The fact that they
> historically have done so in a different way from the Republicans - by
> drawing in potential independent forces, especially working class forces -
> doesn't change this in the slightest.
> In the second place, I think this study makes the classic mistake of
> assuming that association means causality. In other words, just because a
> handful of mid-Western states suffered an unusually high rate of casualties
> in recent and ongoing wars and that these states voted for Trump doesn't
> mean that the one caused the other. I think there is a much more likely
> cause:
> Because of the drying up of industrial jobs, these states have suffered a
> high rate of unemployment and poverty. This has been the cause of higher
> enlistment rates in the US military as well as the cause (in a twisted way)
> of the vote for Trump. I'd propose an associated factor: The destruction of
> the industrial working class has had a disastrous effect on the
> consciousness of those former industrial workers and their families. It's
> been a process similar to the destruction of the coal mining industry in
> Britain, which destruction decimated the class consciousness and led to the
> Brexit vote.
> John Reimann

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