[Marxism] Watergate’s John Dean on Why Trump Will Survive the Russia Scandal – Rolling Stone

Ralph Johansen mdriscollrj at charter.net
Thu Jul 26 14:51:36 MDT 2018

Louis Proyect wrote


Catching up on my inbox, fwiw this is my comment in Rolling Stone:

While I don't disagree with what John Dean says here, this whole Russia 
Gate business is in any comprehensive view an exercise in denial/avoidance.

Interference in other nations' internal affairs is SOP presently and 

We can easily list more than 100 incidents of direct and indirect 
interference by the US in foreign elections or with foreign regimes, 
really the same thing. This has been in covert or overt, with virtual 
impunity it is thought, and devastating to the affected people and their 
country. In fact, what capitalist regime would not be doing this, given 
the capability?

Second, it's hard to quite figure out how the so-called interference 
really affected the outcome, if at all. Yes, it could be a threat to 
voters' rights, but my god stack that alongside of our government's 
savage conduct globally and internally, which we as a deluded people 
tolerate or ignore, to our seeming benefit.

Third, we are in an era of cyber warfare and generalized surveillance, 
without as yet effective defenses. So everyone able to spy in this 
manner is doing so, at their own peril if they do not.

Fourth, much or most of this is driven by transnational corporations, 
financial, industrial and other commercial, whose life-or-death drive 
for profitable expansion and therefore increased market share chases all 
over the globe in a constant vicious cycle of indirect and direct 
violence. Why would we think the hegemonic nations, following US's lead, 
are acting/have acted against regimes like Iran, Iraq, Libya,  China, 
Pakistan, Venezuela, Cuba, on occasion countries like Brazil or 
Argentina or Mexico? Because, in one way or another, by either 
arrogating their own labor and material resources to their own state 
interests and/or national corporate interests, these subaltern entities 
in the international pecking order are interfering in the free flow of 
capital investment and access to material and labor resources by 
dominant capital and their captive state headquarters, without regard to 
borders or sovereignty. On that note, every so-called developed economy, 
without exception, has initially acted to protect its own infant 
industry, until such time as it might or might not reach the tier of 
hegemonic players. By any means feasible.

This is obviously true in the case of Russia and their material 
resources, including their claim on a substantial portion of Arctic and 
other territory with rich, vast, untapped oil and other mineral 
resources. Russia is a nation that has had more or less effective 
deterrence against that kind of intrusion for many years, since they 
became a major nuclear state. This threat is most often sooner or later 
countered, by boycott, financial impedance, diplomatic measures or 
frequently extreme violence, through elimination of a palpable threat or 
as a perceived threat to the path of capital dominance or unimpeded 
convenience, or in setting an example for others who would stand in the 

So I say, let's come off it on this Russia scandal. It's not going to 
bring Trump and "trumpism" down, even weaken them, or affect the course 
of events in any significant way. This is garbage, this is an inexorably 
conflicted system of capital accumulation, and this hand-wringing over 
the so-called Russian scandal deflects from attention to real, onerous 
threats, such as imminent climate destruction and increasing global 
inequality and poverty.

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