[Marxism] Gun control and assault weapons

Tristan Sloughter t at crashfast.com
Fri Mar 2 11:00:47 MST 2018


> There was some disagreement, but in general we agreed that our society
> would be better off if civilians did not possess assault weapons. We also
> agreed that the police shouldn’t have them either.

Exactly. I've argued our role is supporting gun control and bringing to the movement the need to include the police in those who need to be disarmed.

But regarding "how" to confiscate guns... that isn't going to happen. We are a long way from even support for a nation-wide gun buyback program, why get into the weeds of hypothetical when there is real support today for other changes.

Since mental health always ends up coming into the discussion too, socialists bring opposition to criminalizing people but instead universal health care.

And any discussion on gun control must include suicides and non-mass shootings -- both related to handguns and not long guns. We should be bringing slogans/platforms for disarming the police, universal health care and revolutionary change to how our economic system is organized so that no one is buried in debt, losing their home, without work, attending schools without resources...

Also, I think focusing on the fact that we can't fight tanks with ar15s misses some important points (not to mention the history of improvisation done by guerrillas to defeat armies). One being, in what world are we talking about that cops will be murdering fewer people because those individuals are carrying guns?

It isn't the guns that have stopped police in the examples often brought up for how guns stop police abuse, it is the workers being organized.




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