[Marxism] [UCE] Re: To combat left anti-semitism, Corbynism must change the way it sees the world

Sheldon Ranz sranz18 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 28 14:19:04 MDT 2018


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The problem with the referenced article is that it would also be an
indictment of Bernie Sanders, since he also views US capitalism as a rigged
system.  Berniecrats don't seem to fall into conspiratorial, let alone
anti-Semitic tropes about capitalism.  And as far as the mural is
concerned, only two of the six bankers depicted are Jews, which is a very
atypical (and sophisticated) anti-Semitic representation.  Many Jews,
including myself,  would not initially see it as anti-Semitic, let alone
Corbyn.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism <
marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:

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> On 3/28/18 1:51 PM, A.R. G wrote:
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>> True, but there isn't much one can do when these kinds of propagandists
>> are looking for "anti-Semitism," particularly when they've cast a wide net.
>> For one, even where left groups have published people who have issued
>> anti-Semitic commentary (like Atzmon and Shamir) the response and process
>> of disowning is much stronger than, say, Islamophobic rhetoric which is
>> also found regularly in "left" scholarship. In other cases the impression
>> of anti-Semitism is all that is needed, such as in the hoaxes about
>> Palestine student organizations at US campuses. Even where there is no
>> ammunition, they will fabricate it. That is why these
>> exaggerated/fabricated campaigns about left anti-Semitism should be
>> understood not as a simple rhetorical issue but as one that deals
>> fundamentally with anti-Arab and anti-Muslim racism among leftists/social
>> democrats in the US and Europe.
>>
>> Amith R. Gupta
>>
>
> The problem is that Corbyn is under the influence of some really stupid
> people like Seumas Milne. Milne is not an anti-Semite but he certainly is a
> conspiracy theorist. That mural was positively soaked in the meatheaded
> talking points of a thousand different knuckle-dragging websites.
>
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