[Marxism] Syria: Assad threatens Idlib while Afrin resists Turkish occupation (Green Left Weekly)

Nick Fredman nick.j.fredman at gmail.com
Thu Sep 13 21:59:41 MDT 2018

On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 12:43 pm, Louis Proyect via Marxism <
marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:

> So what in hell's name is going on with you people? Don't you realize
> that you are morphing into an anarchist current? Why not go whole hog
> and find some Bakuninites to fuse with in Australia?

Well your problem apart from denial of any evidence you don’t like seems to
be some lingering symptoms of ortho-Trotskyism like thinking formal program
determines everything and an inability to understand solidarity and
collaboration that doesn’t involve ideological conformity.

Yes the Apoist in rejecting Stalinism have eclectically borrowed from
Bookchin as well as other sources, but their practice doesn’t seem very
different what what any socialist current could or should do in their
varied circumstances. Sure it’s justified and useful to make informed as
opposed to ignorant and dogmatic critiques of Apoism. I’ve mentioned Rahila
Gupta on their feminism before.

Whatever the justified critiques, we might, shocking as it might seem,
actually learn something from people leading millions in an anti-capitalist
movement, as well as by re-reading Lenin.

A number of Australian anarchists do have better poisitions and practice on
Syria, or on other issues, than a number of people with more impeccable
Leninist qualifications on paper. For example it was welcome that some
prominent Melbourne anarchists attended the recent large launch of the
Victorian Socialists. The large local Kurdish left are I understand also
supported of this electoral alliance, despite their opinions of Socialist
Alternative’s opinions on Syria. All a bit complicated maybe but that’s


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