[Marxism] Gray Zone versus the deep state, regime change, Trotskyite devils | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

Chris Slee chris_w_slee at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 11 16:03:22 MDT 2019


I am not aware of any such statements.

I am also not aware of any statements by rebel groups in Idlib and Hama denouncing the Turkish invasion and occupation of Afrin.  If such statements exist I would like to see them.

The dependence of rebel groups in northern Syria on Turkish material support has led to the cooption of many of them.  Some Idlib-based groups participated in the Turkish invasion of Afrin.

Thus Turkey has been very successful in its policy of divide and rule.

Chris Slee
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Chris, since movements that are under some kind of siege need to build alliances first and foremost among other people struggling (regardless of whether there might still be a necessity to deal with the devil as you describe), could you please send through any statements of solidarity by the "Rojava revolutionaries" with the people being mass murdered in Idlib and Hama for months on end now by the regime and Russian imperialism, with literally dozens of hospitals and schools being bombed, at least 500 killed and 100s of 1000s displaced. Thanks.

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 5:59 PM Chris Slee via Marxism <marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu<mailto:marxism at lists.csbs.utah.edu>> wrote:

Today two examples are Venezuela receiving aid from Russia and the Syrian Democratic Forces receiving aid from the US.

Such aid always involves the danger of cooption and degeneration.  But this is not inevitable.  Whether a movement gets coopted depends on a range of local and international factors.

For example, if the Turkish government stopped threatening to invade northeastern Syria, the SDF would no longer need US support to deter such an invasion, and the danger of cooption would be reduced.





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