[Marxism] Australia: luck running out? | Michael Roberts Blog

John Edmundson johnedmundson4 at gmail.com
Sun May 19 23:27:48 MDT 2019


Surely though it is the job of leftists to avoid "lesser evilism".
Obviously there will be ways in which Labor is "better", just as Labour is
in some ways "better" in New Zealand, where I am. But as long as the
message from the left is that Labor/Labour/the Democrats is the lesser
evil, people will never shift far. I see it all the time. The flip side of
Labour being the lesser evil is that the Tories, in NZ that's the National
Party, are more evil. Next thing, and I see this all the time, it's evil
John Key (the former National Party leader and Prime Minister), the Fascist
Nats, and then, because the Labour Party's coalition partner is New Zealand
First, led by ex-Nat Winston Peters, an old school Keynesian, xenophobe and
social conservative, anything the government does that they don't like,
such as dumping their proposed Capital Gains Tax, is "Winston's fault".

Actually no, it isn;t Winston's fault. Labour saw the strength of reaction
from the business community, landlords etc and decided, because
parliamentary democracy is all about "winning the middle", a CGT wasn't an
election winner, even though a significant majority of New Zealanders when
polled, supported one. One of the most important things the left in the
West has to do is break people from "lesser Evilism", not just reflect it.

Cheers,
John

On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 9:37 AM Chris Slee <chris_w_slee at hotmail.com> wrote:

> The Labor Party was in some respects (not all) a lesser evil than the
> Coalition.
>
> For example, Labor promised to increase the unemployment benefit, which
> had been kept at a poverty level for decades.
>
> However Labor refused to commit itself to a specific amount, saying this
> would be determined by an enquiry.  This would have meant unnecessary
> delay.  Still, it would have eventually resulted in an increase.
>
> On many issues Labor agrees with the Coalition - for example, continuing
> the detention of refugees on islands in the Pacific (Manus and Nauru), and
> continuing the policy of turning back refugee boats.
>
> However Labor did promise to restore the meagre financial support given to
> asylum seekers currently living in the Australian community, which had been
> cut off by the Coalition government.
>
> On some issues Labor failed to take a clear position (for example, on the
> proposed Adani coal mine).
>
> But there were enough issues on which Labor had a somewhat better position
> than the government that we could say it was a lesser evil.
>
> After the defeat one Labor politician has said the party lost because it
> was too left-wing.  I would not be surprised if the Labor Party moves even
> further to the right.
>
> Chris Slee
>
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> A comment about Union independence from Labor aside, this GLW article still
> seems to see a Labor win as a positive thing . . .
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 6:49 PM Chris Slee via Marxism <
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> > Michael Roberts notes that opinion polls were predicting a Labor Party
> > victory in the election.  But this did not happen - the Liberal-National
> > Coalition has won.  (There are still some undecided seats, but these will
> > not enable a Labor victory.  At best they might force the Coalition
> > government into reaching an agreement with some right-wing independents).
> >
> > One factor affecting the result was a huge media campaign by Clive
> Palmer,
> > a wealthy businessman who spent an estimated $60 million on
> advertisements
> > attacking Labor.  This amount is roughly equal to the combined spending
> of
> > Labor and the Coalition.
> >
> > On a more positive note, the Victorian Socialists - a coalition of left
> > groups and individuals  in the state of Victoria - averaged about 5
> percent
> > in the 3 electorates it contested, which is much larger than other
> election
> > results for left groups in federal elections in recent years.
> >
> > Here is an article about the election result by Jim McIlroy in Green Left
> > Weekly:
> >
> >
> https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/coalition-win-makes-fightback-urgent
> >
> > Chris Slee
> >
> >
> >
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> > Australia may be a ‘lucky country’ but luck can change.  The economy
> > relies on raw material exports and so is vulnerable to any plunge in
> > commodity prices and if China were to slow down or the trade war with
> > the US really spike, then Australia is vulnerable.  The OECD put it this
> > way “a negative external shock cold prompt a sharp cut to incomes, a
> > rise in unemployment and downturn in consumption.  This would increase
> > mortgage stress and further escalate a fall in house prices.  A currency
> > depreciation would also be likely.”
> >
> >
> >
> https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2019/05/17/australia-luck-running-out/
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