[Marxism] Shoot Migrants’ Legs, Build Alligator Moat: Behind Trump’s Ideas for Border

Louis Proyect lnp3 at panix.com
Wed Oct 2 08:22:14 MDT 2019

NY Times, Oct. 2, 2019
Shoot Migrants’ Legs, Build Alligator Moat: Behind Trump’s Ideas for Border
By Michael D. Shear and Julie Hirschfeld Davis

WASHINGTON — The Oval Office meeting this past March began, as so many 
had, with President Trump fuming about migrants. But this time he had a 
solution. As White House advisers listened astonished, he ordered them 
to shut down the entire 2,000-mile border with Mexico — by noon the next 

The advisers feared the president’s edict would trap American tourists 
in Mexico, strand children at schools on both sides of the border and 
create an economic meltdown in two countries. Yet they also knew how 
much the president’s zeal to stop immigration had sent him lurching for 
solutions, one more extreme than the next.

Privately, the president had often talked about fortifying a border wall 
with a water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators, prompting 
aides to seek a cost estimate. He wanted the wall electrified, with 
spikes on top that could pierce human flesh. After publicly suggesting 
that soldiers shoot migrants if they threw rocks, the president backed 
off when his staff told him that was illegal. But later in a meeting, 
aides recalled, he suggested that they shoot migrants in the legs to 
slow them down. That’s not allowed either, they told him.

“The president was frustrated and I think he took that moment to hit the 
reset button,” said Thomas D. Homan, who had served as Mr. Trump’s 
acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, recalling that 
week in March. “The president wanted it to be fixed quickly.”

Mr. Trump’s order to close the border was a decision point that touched 
off a frenzied week of presidential rages, round-the-clock staff panic 
and far more White House turmoil than was known at the time. By the end 
of the week, the seat-of-the-pants president had backed off his threat 
but had retaliated with the beginning of a purge of the aides who had 
tried to contain him.

Today, as Mr. Trump is surrounded by advisers less willing to stand up 
to him, his threat to seal off the country from a flood of immigrants 
remains active. “I have absolute power to shut down the border,” he said 
in an interview this summer with The New York Times.

This article is based on interviews with more than a dozen White House 
and administration officials directly involved in the events of that 
week in March. They were granted anonymity to describe sensitive 
conversations with the president and top officials in the government.

In the Oval Office that March afternoon, a 30-minute meeting extended to 
more than two hours as Mr. Trump’s team tried desperately to placate him.

“You are making me look like an idiot!” Mr. Trump shouted, adding in a 
profanity, as multiple officials in the room described it. “I ran on 
this. It’s my issue.”

Among those in the room were Kirstjen Nielsen, the homeland security 
secretary at the time; Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state; Kevin K. 
McAleenan, the Customs and Border Protection chief at the time; and 
Stephen Miller, the White House aide who, more than anyone, had 
orchestrated Mr. Trump’s immigration agenda. Mick Mulvaney, the acting 
chief of staff was also there, along with Jared Kushner, the president’s 
son-in-law, and other senior staff.

Ms. Nielsen, a former aide to George W. Bush brought into the department 
by John F. Kelly, the president’s former chief of staff, was in a 
perilous position. She had always been viewed with suspicion by the 
president, who told aides she was “a Bushie,” and part of the “deep 
state” who once contributed to a group that supported Jeb Bush’s 
presidential campaign.

Mr. Trump had routinely berated Ms. Nielsen as ineffective and, worse — 
at least in his mind — not tough-looking enough. “Lou Dobbs hates you, 
Ann Coulter hates you, you’re making me look bad,” Mr. Trump would tell 
her, referring to the Fox Business Network host and the conservative 

The happiest he had been with Ms. Nielsen was a few months earlier, when 
American border agents had fired tear gas into Mexico to try to stop 
migrants from crossing into the United States. Human rights 
organizations condemned the move, but Mr. Trump loved it. More often, 
though, she drew the president’s scorn.

That March day, he was furious at Mr. Pompeo, too, for having cut a deal 
with Mexico to allow the United States to reject some asylum seekers — a 
plan Mr. Trump said was clearly failing.

A complete shutdown of the border, Mr. Trump said, was the only way.

Ms. Nielsen had tried reasoning with the president on many occasions. 
When she stood up to him during a cabinet meeting the previous spring, 
he excoriated her and she almost resigned.

Now, she tried again to reason with him.

We can close the border, she told the president, but it’s not going to 
fix anything. People will still be permitted to claim asylum.

But Mr. Trump was unmoved. Even Mr. Kushner, who had developed 
relationships with Mexican officials and now sided with Ms. Nielsen, 
could not get through to him.

“All you care about is your friends in Mexico,” the president snapped, 
according to people in the room. “I’ve had it. I want it done at noon 

The Start of an Overhaul

The president’s advisers left the meeting in a near panic.

Every year more than $200 billion worth of American exports flow across 
the Mexican border. Closing it would wreak havoc on American farmers and 
automakers, among many others. Senator Mitch McConnell, Republican of 
Kentucky and the majority leader, said in an interview at the time that 
a border shutdown would have “a potentially catastrophic economic impact 
on our country.”

That night, White House advisers succeeded in convincing the president 
to give them a reprieve, but only for a week, until the following 
Friday. That gave them very little time to change the president’s mind.

They started by pressuring their Mexican counterparts to rapidly 
increase apprehensions of migrants. Mr. Kushner and others in the West 
Wing showered the president with emails proving that the Mexicans had 
already started apprehending more migrants before they could enter the 
United States.

White House advisers encouraged a stream of corporate executives, 
Republican lawmakers and officials from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce to 
tell Mr. Trump how damaging a border closure would be.

Mr. Miller, meanwhile, saw an opportunity.

It was his view that the president needed to completely overhaul the 
Homeland Security Department and get rid of senior officials who he 
believed were thwarting efforts to block immigrants. Although many were 
the president’s handpicked aides, Mr. Miller told him they had become 
part of the problem by constantly citing legal hurdles.

Ms. Nielsen, who regularly found herself telling Mr. Trump why he 
couldn’t have what he wanted, was an obvious target. When the president 
demanded “flat black” paint on his border wall, she said it would cost 
an additional $1 million per mile. When he ordered wall construction 
sped up, she said they needed permission from property owners. Take the 
land, Mr. Trump would say, and let them sue us.

When Ms. Nielsen tried to get him to focus on something other than the 
border, the president grew impatient. During a briefing on the need for 
new legal authority to take down drones, Mr. Trump cut her off midsentence.

“Kirstjen, you didn’t hear me the first time, honey,” Mr. Trump said, 
according to two people familiar with the conversation. “Shoot ’em down. 
Sweetheart, just shoot ’em out of the sky, O.K.?”

But the problem went deeper than Ms. Nielsen, Mr. Miller believed. L. 
Francis Cissna, the head of the United States Citizenship and 
Immigration Services until earlier this year, regularly pushed back on 
Mr. Miller’s demand for a “culture change” at the agency, where Mr. 
Miller believed asylum officers were bleeding hearts, too quick to 
extend protections to immigrants.

They needed to start with the opposite point of view, Mr. Miller told 
him, and start turning people away.

John Mitnick, the homeland security general counsel who often raised 
legal concerns about Mr. Trump’s immigration policies, was also on Mr. 
Miller’s blacklist. Mr. Miller had also turned against Ronald D. 
Vitiello, a top official at Customs and Border Protection whom the 
president had nominated to lead Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

By midweek, the campaign to change Mr. Trump’s mind about closing the 
border seemed to be working.

Maybe there’s another way to do this, the president told Ms. Nielsen. 
How about if I impose tariffs on the Mexicans, or threaten to impose 
tariffs? Tariffs are great.

But the staff worried that his retreat would only be temporary. The 
president never really let go of his obsessions.

They were right. On a trip to California late in the week, Mr. Trump 
turned to Mr. McAleenan, the Customs and Border Protection chief, with a 
new idea: He wanted him to stop letting migrants cross the border at 
all, with no exceptions. If you get into any trouble for it, Mr. Trump 
told him, I’ll pardon you.

The Turning Point

Once on the ground, Mr. Trump met up with Ms. Nielsen and worked a room 
filled with Border Patrol agents. Start turning away migrants at the 
border, he told them. My message to you is, keep them all out, the 
president said. Every single one of them. The country is full.

After the president left the room, Mr. McAleenan told the agents to 
ignore the president. You absolutely do not have the authority to stop 
processing migrants altogether, he warned.

As she and her staff flew back to Washington that Friday evening, Ms. 
Nielsen called the president. She knew he was angry with her.

“Sir, I know you’re really frustrated,” she told him. The president 
invited her to meet with him on Sunday in the White House residence.

Ms. Nielsen knew that Mr. Miller wanted her out, so she spent the flight 
huddled with aides on a strategy for getting control of the border, a 
Hail Mary pass. She called it the “Six C’s” — Congress, Courts, 
Communications, Countries, Criminals, Cartels.

Unbeknown to her, Ms. Nielsen’s staff started work on her letter of 

When Ms. Nielsen presented her plan to Mr. Trump at the White House, he 
dismissed it and told her what he really needed was a cement wall.

“Sir,” she said, “I literally don’t think that’s even possible.” They 
couldn’t build that now even if it would work, which it wouldn’t, Ms. 
Nielsen told him. The designs for steel barriers had long since been 
finalized, the contracts bid and signed.

The president responded that it was time for her to go, Mr. Trump 
recalled later. “Kirstjen, I want to make a change,” he said.

The president said he would wait a week to announce her resignation, to 
leave time for a transition. But before Ms. Nielsen had left the White 
House that day, the word was leaking out. By evening, Mr. Trump was 
tweeting about it.

“Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen will be leaving her 
position,” Trump wrote, “and I would like to thank her for her service.”

The dismissal was a turning point for Mr. Trump’s immigration agenda, 
the start of the purge that ushered in a team that embraced Mr. Miller’s 

Mr. Trump quickly dismissed Claire M. Grady, the homeland security under 
secretary, and moved Mr. McAleenan to take Ms. Nielsen’s old job. Within 
two months, Mr. Cissna was out as well, replaced by Kenneth T. 
Cuccinelli II, a former Virginia attorney general and an immigration 

On Aug. 12, Mr. Cuccinelli announced that the government would deny 
green cards for immigrants deemed likely to become “public charges.” 
Nine days later, Mr. McAleenan announced regulations to allow immigrant 
families to be detained indefinitely.

In the months since the purge, the president has repeated his threat of 
placing tariffs on Mexico to spur aggressive enforcement at the border. 
Mr. McAleenan and Mr. Cuccinelli have embraced restrictive asylum rules. 
And the Pentagon approved shifting $3.6 billion to build the wall.

Mr. Trump has continued to face resistance in the courts and public 
outrage about his immigration agenda. But the people who tried to 
restrain him have largely been replaced.

In the interview with The Times this past summer, Mr. Trump said he had 
seriously considered sealing the border during March, but acknowledged 
that doing so would have been “very severe.”

“The problem you have with the laws the way they are, we can have 
100,000 of our soldiers standing up there — they can’t do a thing,” Mr. 
Trump said ruefully.

This article is adapted from “Border Wars: Inside Trump’s Assault on 
Immigration,” to be published by Simon & Schuster on Oct. 8.

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