[Marxism] Sanders's "turnout" strategy not working

Michael Meeropol mameerop at gmail.com
Tue Feb 25 09:08:14 MST 2020

John is 100% right -- WE JUST DON'T KNOW --- (that's why sports teams play
the games rather than award the trophy to the team with the best record
going into the tournament!) --

THEREFORE, it is most appropriate that everybody vote for the person they
like the best ---- and then work like Hell for WHOEVER the Dems choose ...

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 10:39 AM John Reimann <1999wildcat at gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael Meeropol is dealing with a different issue. Yes, many voters even
> including former Republican voters, loathe and want to defeat Trump. That
> was proven in the 2018 elections, which had a record turnout for a midterm
> election. But that vote went to middle-of-the-road Democrats. Of the 41
> seats that were "flipped", every single one went to such Democrats. There
> were a few seats that were considered winnable for Democrats in which a
> Sanders-type candidate ran. Those seats weren't flipped. And so far, the
> traditionally non-voting youth have not turned out to vote for Sanders in
> any large numbers.
> This doesn't necessarily mean that it will be the same this November, or
> even later in the primary season. It's possible that if the Berniemobile
> gathers momentum, this will inspire this layer of traditional non-voters.
> The point is that it has not done so until this point.
> Of course, if Sanders is the nominee we will see an avalanche of
> red-baiting, as well as attacks on Medicare for all. The point is that this
> could very well have an affect on the middle-of-the-road voters who flipped
> those 41 seats in 2018, and unless there is a new layer of radicalized
> youth who turn out, the result of a Sanders-led Democratic ticket could be
> very dire... as could the exact opposite.
> The leadership of the Democratic Party who are certain that Sanders will
> lead them to disaster are lost in the wilderness. But so are those who are
> certain that Sanders would handily defeat Trump. My point is that we simply
> don't know, not any more than those meteorologists who try to predict the
> track of a hurricane.
> John Reimann
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 6:41 AM Michael Meeropol <mameerop at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> This whole focus on turnout in the primaries ignores one major fact ---
>> MANY democrats DON'T CARE who is nominated --- they want to beat Trump and
>> will come out to vote against him.   How else to explain the record
>> turnouts in 2018?
>> The most important thing we can do is to counter the rising tide of
>> anti-Sanders red-baiting.  I was unfortunate enough to be stuck in an
>> automobile dealer's waiting room while my car was serviced.  As in too many
>> public places, the TV was turned to Trump-TV (alias Fox) --- and the were
>> going on and on about Bernie supporting Castro and Venezuela and how
>> horrible those countries are ---
>> That's Trump's playbook and it is worth fighting against ---
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